Bus driver sacked OMG

[pete01]

Until they both abandon your bus and all its passengers leaving the engine running and they keys inside.

For good reason

 

[Elsa TLC]

Bloody foreigners come over here beat up our thieves and protecting our public.

Hope he gets deported.

Im going to set up a go fund me page for the thief.
I want to get enough money together to buy him a necklace of his own.

 

[johnny2007]

When you have a responsible primary job to do, which includes the responsibility for numerous passengers and a distraction could unleash a potentially far worse crime, you are not idly standing by watching a crime unfold.

What could have happened if the bus driver was seriously hurt in the fight?
What could have happened if an opportunistic thief or even a terrorist had taken the bus for a ride?
The drivers primary responsibility was for the bus and his passengers.


Do I detect a bit of schadenfreude disguised as concern? Judging by your inconsistency, I wouldn't be surprised.

Himmy, with ifs and buts your fantasies don't become reality.
Coming from you, never having seen a day of work, it's simply a schizophrenic vision.

could have done with a @Mottie and his scaffold pole here:

This happened down the road from me, in the once civilised Richmond.
With the midget in charge these doctors and lawyers are freely attacking us, safe in the knowledge that they will never be caught.
I wish someone would've clubbed them in the head and make them into a pulp with a scaffold pole.

 

[morqthana]

For good reason

And if you don't think their reason for abandoning their duty of care to your paying customers, and their duty to take care of a company asset worth hundreds of thousands of pounds, was a good one, what then?

 

[morqthana]

Himmy, with ifs and buts your fantasies don't become reality.

Neither, thank god, does your performative mouth-and-trousers blathering in support of anarchy rather than the rule of law.

This happened down the road from me, in the once civilised Richmond.
With the midget in charge these doctors and lawyers are freely attacking us, safe in the knowledge that they will never be caught.

Were the two people attacking the jewellers a doctor and a lawyer?

I wish someone would've clubbed them in the head and make them into a pulp with a scaffold pole.

I wish you'd do something like that - you would so enjoy your appearance in court.

 

[ReganAndCarter]

And all the while, no one has stopped to ask what Metroline are doing running buses without enviro stop start technology.

 

[ReganAndCarter]

As usual, all liberals out in force - putting a lot of effort into being on the wrong side. The criminal's side.

 

[morqthana]

You can show posts here where people have taken "the criminal's side" can you?

No - of course you can't.

 

[King Billy]

At the point he KO'd him, it seems there was no threat.

It's disputed whether there was any threat at all before he KO'd him.
I can understand the police not pressing charges of assault against the bus driver because a) it would not be in the public interest, b) any penalty would have been minimal, c) the cost of the case would not be justified.

The CCTV on the bus could have easily helped in identifying the thief, without any "heroics".

If the driver had admitted that an offered hand of apology was, in the heat of the moment, misinterpreted as a threat, there would be mitigating circumstances for his assault. But in telling lies and sticking to it, he tried to justify his assault.

But the primary reason for his dismissal was delegation of duty. The 'fight' was a peripheral issue.

 

[King Billy]

I would always step in to help anyone who is getting roughed up by thugs.

You appear to have invented your own version of the story. No-one was "getting roughed up by thugs".

I could not standby and watch anyone in this situation.

Suppose you abandoned your company's property, leaving it as a danger to the public, extremely vulnerable to theft, or even worse, used as a weapon, and ran off down the street to participate in a fight? What view would your employer take of your efforts?

I have stepped in and broke up fights in pubs many times, it is just instinct to me.

Maybe it's your desire for violence kicking in.

 

[King Billy]

Called the police while they were breaking my steering lock and about to make off with it? How quick do you think they would have responded? Ten more seconds and they’d have been away with it. Good old vigilante justice was dished out. Practically got a pat on the back from the police when I did report it.

You called the police when they were breaking the steering lock, then you reported it to the police again when you retrieved the bike?

AI disagrees with your opinion of vigilante justice. Weirdly I agree with AI.:

Vigilante justice is generally considered detrimental to a stable society, as it operates outside the law, lacks accountability, and often leads to the punishment of innocent people. While it may sometimes offer short-term crime reduction or fulfill a perceived need for justice in weak legal systems, it ultimately fosters violence, corruption, and the erosion of due process.
Why Vigilante Justice is Generally Considered Negative:

• Lack of Due Process: Vigilantes bypass legal procedures like "innocent until proven guilty," often resulting in wrongful accusations and punishments.
• Violence and Instability: It often descends into mob rule, causing further, uncontrolled violence and anarchy rather than true justice.
• Risk to Innocent People: Without proper investigation or training, innocent individuals are frequently harmed, as noted in studies of vigilante actions.
• Undermines the Legal System: It bypasses established legal systems and, in some cases, stems from or creates situations of "anarcho-tyranny".
• Potential for Abuse: It is often driven by personal vendettas, power struggles, or prejudices against minorities and vulnerable groups.

Perhaps you consider the riots and fire at the Southport hotel as acceptable vigilante justice.

Which do you think should apply in a civil society, vigilante justice, or the rule of law?

 

[King Billy]

Yes the similarity of events and laws are identical... oh wait, they are completely different.

A principle encapsulated within an argument can be transferable to completely different scenarios.

 

[King Billy]

It was nothing more than lawful force to prevent crime and protect property.

At the point he KO'd him, it seems there was no threat.

Please explain your application of lawful force to the incidents that ensued, bearing in mind the occasions when lawful force can be employed.
When Reasonable Force is Permitted:

• Self-Defense & Protecting Others: When you have an honest belief that you or someone else is in immediate danger.
• Preventing Crime: To stop a crime in progress, such as theft or violent assault.
• Defending Property: To protect your home or property from damage or intruders.
• Lawful Arrest: To stop an offender from running away or to assist in a lawful arrest.

 

[King Billy]

wrong law dummy.

In your opinion, which is the correct law?
Telling someone that they are wrong without explanation or reference to, or supply of the correct answer is childish and ignorant.

 

[morqthana]

But the primary reason for his dismissal was delegation of duty. The 'fight' was a peripheral issue.

But it suits the culture warriors here to make out that he was sacked for his have-a-go actions so that they can compete with each other in the "if I'd been the driver I would have..." chest beating stakes.