'UK has been colonised by immigrants'

No, you need NI contributions. They will be entitled to Pension Credit, but that is not the same as State Pension.

Most immigrants on work or family visas have a condition on their visa stating "No Recourse to Public Funds," meaning they cannot claim Pension Credit at all.
Those immigrants who migrated years ago and have worked for many years in UK, and paying NI contributions are entitled to the state pension, depending on the number of years of their NI contributions. They're not on a visa, they will either have leave for indefinite stay, or will be UK citizens.
Pensions are still classed as benefit.
 
we are also entitled to say no enough is enough.
You're entitled to say whatever you want, it doesn't make it so.
You're not entitled to spout false information to support your argument, irrespective of what that argument is.
 
Apply for asylum in the first safe country you reach and then apply for a visa. or apply for a visa first if thats possible.
You must be fully aware that a) Uk will not grant a visa "to claim asylum". It's not an acceptable reason for a visa, and b) UK will refuse you asylum on the basis that you have already claimed asylum elsewhere, if you were lucky enough to reach UK.
 
Do you mean come to the UK legally on a visa and then apply for asylum once here.
that is an option

or apply to the first safe country and go from there.
Motorbiking is being silly. You would need to apply for a visa "to claim asylum", but no such visa reason exists.
If you apply for another type of visa, then claim asylum when you reach UK, you will be considered to have supplied false information on your visa application. Your application will be rejected on that basis.
 
No - while being present in the UK

40,000 people came to the UK legally and then claimed asylum.

They had some sort of recognised visa.
For study, they will need a letter of acceptance from a school or university.
For work, they will need a letter offering them emplyoment.
For any other reason , they will still need some form of proof for their application for a visa to succede.
They can't just apply for a tourist vias and claim asylum when they arrive. Tourists' visas usually need proof of onward travel, or hotel reservation, etc.
 
A person who has an approved claim can obtain travel documents.
So their claim for asylum would be approved before travelling to UK. But UK would not accept the application, if they had already applied elsewhere. They would need to wait for the decision elsewhere.
You can't make multiple applications for asylum in multiple countries, then choose which one to accept.
 
But extremely difficult

And so it should be. Can you imagine how many would turn up on our shores if it was pïss easy? Where would we house them? Who would pay for them? At what point would we say enough is enough? What would the limit be? All perfectly reasonable questions to ask. Can you answer any of them?

They pay for themselves , always have , country is built on them .
We have not had enough housing for over 50 years , nothing to do with immigrants .

You answered none of my questions.

So, they just get of the boat/plane, find a house and start work eh? Effectively do away with border control then? What world do you live in?
 
Even when, as someone who has an air-sea rescue helicopter as his avatar, you join in attacking the RNLI because you think they should use politics as a criterion for deciding whose lives to save?
Pete probably didn't realise his avatar was of an air-sea-rescue service vehicle.
 
Nobody suggested you should claim from outside the UK.
You did suggest they should make false declarations in order to arrive in UK. That would be sufficient reason for refusal of asylum.
Apply for asylum in the first safe country you reach and then apply for a visa. or apply for a visa first if thats possible.


You simply travel here legally - Any visa will do, many manage it (see above)
Motorbiking is being silly. You would need to apply for a visa "to claim asylum", but no such visa reason exists.
If you apply for another type of visa, then claim asylum when you reach UK, you will be considered to have supplied false information on your visa application. Your application will be rejected on that basis.

They had some sort of recognised visa.
For study, they will need a letter of acceptance from a school or university.
For work, they will need a letter offering them emplyoment.
For any other reason , they will still need some form of proof for their application for a visa to succeed.
They can't just apply for a tourist vias and claim asylum when they arrive. Tourists' visas usually need proof of onward travel, or hotel reservation, etc.

You simply travel here legally - Any visa will do, many manage it (see above)
 
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