Toilets and changing rooms

[pete01]

So you think that telling children, in an appropriate way, that homosexuality exists is putting nonsense into their heads.

OK.

Why even mention it, let them grow naturally......what will be will be

 

[morqthana]

But very true

Which is true?

That the "boy" in the toilet is entirely separate problem to the one of people trying to legislate or deny a non-binary gender world out of existence, often by trying to legislate against or deny scientific facts about sex?

Or that the view expressed by the girl was an ignorantly simplistic one which she's been taught by someone?

Or both?

 

[pete01]

So you think that telling children, in an appropriate way, that homosexuality exists is putting nonsense into their heads.

OK.

By the way is your favourite song let's twist again?

 

[pete01]

Exactly

 

[morqthana]

Why even mention it,

Why not mention it?

let them grow naturally......

Please explain how telling children that homosexuality exists will interfere with, or affect, their natural growth, and please do so by referencing proper scientific studies.

what will be will be

Do you feel the same about gender identity?

 

[pete01]

Why not mention it?

Theres no need to.

Please explain how telling children that homosexuality exists will interfere with, or affect, their natural growth, and please do so by referencing proper scientific studies.

Im not a scientist

Do you feel the same about gender identit

Sure

 

[pete01]

Please explain how telling children that homosexuality exists will interfere

Oh and I didn't say that, i said no need to mention it....think on

 

[securespark]

Does misandry upset you also?

Yes, of course.

We were at a festival a few Summers ago. A male friend was wearing a kilt and a drunk woman was trying to "up skirt" him, saying "I bet you're not wearing anything under that, big boy, are you...?"

I asked her what the hell she thought she was playing at and what she would think and how she would feel if it was a man doing and saying those things to her.

 

[morqthana]

Theres no need to.

Are there any other topics you don't think "need" to be taught because you wish the facts were otherwise and you support the perpetuation of ignorance into the next generation?

Do you think that no mention should ever be made in schools about families, mothers, fathers, etc?

Im not a scientist

Then you should stop asserting that telling children that homosexuality exists will interfere with, or affect, their natural growth.

Sure

I don't think I've ever read an interview with a homosexual where he or she hasn't said "I've always* known I was gay". They may have not had the language to articulate how they felt, they may have felt confused or anxious without knowing why, but they've always* known that they were in some way out of the norm.

How should a young person trying to articulate that be dealt with? Ignored? Told it's nonsense?

* obviously limited to the age when feelings like that start to emerge, not as young children.

 

[pete01]

Are there any other topics you don't think "need" to be taught because you wish the facts were otherwise and you support the perpetuation of ignorance into the next generation?

Do you think that no mention should ever be made in schools about families, mothers, fathers, etc?




Then you should stop asserting that telling children that homosexuality exists will interfere with, or affect, their natural growth.




I don't think I've ever read an interview with a homosexual where he or she hasn't said "I've always* known I was gay". They may have not had the language to articulate how they felt, they may have felt confused or anxious without knowing why, but they've always* known that they were in some way out of the norm.

How should a young person trying to articulate that be dealt with? Ignored? Told it's nonsense?

* obviously limited to the age when feelings like that start to emerge, not as young children.

Until my child comes to me and says they want to be a girl or boy (whichever way round) I wont mention it, theres no need to

If my son wants to be gay or whatever he wants im happy if hes happy, what i won't do is bang on about it

 

[JohnD]

people trying to legislate or deny a non-binary gender world out of existence,

That is not true.

However, attempts are being made to prevent people who are not women or girls, from accessing places and events that are reserved exclusively to women and girls.

For example, women's changing rooms, women's communal showers, women's toilets, women's prisons, and women's weightlifting competitions.

A man who calls himself a woman is not a woman, and is therefore not entitled to enter.

You are having great difficulty with those facts.

 

[morqthana]

Until my child comes to me and says they want to be a girl or boy (whichever way round) I wont mention it, theres no need to

If my son wants to be gay or whatever he wants im happy if hes happy, what i won't do is bang on about it

What "banging on about it" do you think goes on in schools?

And do you think that no mention should ever be made in schools about families, mothers, fathers, etc?

 

[pete01]

That is not true.

However, attempts are being made to prevent people who are not women or girls, from accessing places and events that are reserved exclusively to women and girls.

For example, women's changing rooms, women's communal showers, women's toilets, women's prisons, and women's weightlifting competitions.

A man who calls himself a woman is not a woman, and is therefore not entitled to enter.

You are having great difficulty with those facts.

Exactly

 

[pete01]

What "banging on about it" do you think goes on in schools?

And do you think that no mention should ever be made in schools about families, mothers, fathers, etc?

Look ive got a hot date with my wife tonight so I wont be arguing with you all night, my son knows hes got a mother and father.... up untill now hes not mentioned being a girl and I've not suggested it, you do as you please.

 

[Elsa TLC]

Yes, of course.

We were at a festival a few Summers ago. A male friend was wearing a kilt and a drunk woman was trying to "up skirt" him, saying "I bet you're not wearing anything under that, big boy, are you...?"

Thats a wee bit different than a woman parking a Car.

I asked her what the hell she thought she was playing at

Well she wasn't parking a car!

and what she would think and how she would feel if it was a man doing and saying those things to her.

She would have been more offended than a woman's parking joke.