Door hinge screws not secure, quick fix?

[chirpychippy]

Long shot.

Have you got a red or a yellow rawl plug, if you have, that'll sort it.

 

[aveatry]

Long shot.

Have you got a red or a yellow rawl plug, if you have, that'll sort it.

I have got a feeling that the answer is no.

 

[chirpychippy]

I have got a feeling that the answer is no.

Pulling Teeth springs to mind!

 

[Nanako]

hi all, i did end up ordering the wood filler, and using it, but i must not have gotten it deep enough, problem persists

however i did also buy some cocktail sticks, so using them is the next step
sadly, or thankfully, depending on your viewpoint, my other plans for the week fell through so now i can spend forever on this =_=

i've no idea how bad the problem truly is, there might be a huge void in there just behind the first cm of wood

 

[Nanako]

I think the OP was hoping for some magic solution to be created by the internet that wouldn't involve any significant effort......

and they did, in fact, give me one. the cocktail stick idea is genius and im going to attempt that next

 

[Lower]

and they did, in fact, give me one. the cocktail stick idea is genius and im going to attempt that next

Didn't think we'd see you back

Matchsticks work better in my experience but cocktail sticks will work, and i squirt some PVA into the hole before filling it with matchsticks/cocktail sticks.

 

[Nanako]

Long shot.

Have you got a red or a yellow rawl plug, if you have, that'll sort it.

i do, the problem is that i cant fit such things through the hinge holes

i really don't want to take the door down and start over. Honestly, i am afraid of it.

This door weighs 40kg, i physically do not have the strength to do this capably, i'm working alone and really struggling, it took hours to get it where it is the first time

i will if i have to, but there are other options to explore first

~absolute worst case, if i have to start over, maybe i could just cut out that chunk of the frame, replace it with a fresh block of wood and use wood filler to join it to the surrounding parts, would that be a bad idea?

 

[Nanako]

Didn't think we'd see you back

Matchsticks work better in my experience but cocktail sticks will work, and i squirt some PVA into the hole before filling it with matchsticks/cocktail sticks.

oh i got distracted yesterday waiting all day for the wood filler to dry to see if that would help, but i cant stay away from this place for long! =)

 

[Lower]

oh i got distracted yesterday waiting all day for the wood filler to dry to see if that would help, but i cant stay away from this place for long! =)

Wood filler won't work as it doesn't have any strength. It might work in the short term, but the screws would quickly come loose again.

 

[Lower]

i do, the problem is that i cant fit such things through the hinge holes

i really don't want to take the door down and start over. Honestly, i am afraid of it.

This door weighs 40kg, i physically do not have the strength to do this capably, i'm working alone and really struggling, it took hours to get it where it is the first time

i will if i have to, but there are other options to explore first

~absolute worst case, if i have to start over, maybe i could just cut out that chunk of the frame, replace it with a fresh block of wood and use wood filler to join it to the surrounding parts, would that be a bad idea?

If the top hinge is properly attached then just open the door to 90 degrees and wedge something under the door to support the weight. You could then remove the screws that you're having the problem with and fold back the hinge to access the holes that are too large.

The matchstick/cocktail stick will work. But even if it doesn't, before you get to the point of choping out a chunk of the frame, drill the holes a bit larger and glue a wooden dowel into the hole. Then you could screw into that.

 

[Nanako]

Didn't think we'd see you back

Matchsticks work better in my experience but cocktail sticks will work, and i squirt some PVA into the hole before filling it with matchsticks/cocktail sticks.

glue now aquired at considerable gouging after a trip to the corner shop

time to attempt this

 

[Nanako]

oh my god what the **** is going on

Okay so i have toothpicks (not cocktail sticks, though i doubt it matters much)
I take a toothpick, i cut it in half, and that half is the exact length of my screw, great. I push one in (wide end first) as far as it will go into the hole. which is all the way usually

Another one will not fit, only one ever fits at a time, until the screw is used to push it in

So then i put in the screw, which is getting harder every time

And i test the door, the hinges still move

I have repeated this EIGHT times now. Each of the problematic screwholes has eight half-toothpicks in it,

My muscles are aching, and one of my knuckles is bloody and raw.

The hinges MIGHT be moving less each time, but i can't be certain, i might well be imagining that. Either way this is not working.

 

[Nanako]

i am no longer looking for quick fixes, whatever needs to be done, i think its time to do it properly

i'm thinking that plugs should be the next step? I will need to drill though because the holes are definitely not gonna let a plug in, too tightly packed. (and yet not tight enough to keep the screw in )

 

[Nanako]

i guess i should clarify here, what i really meant was that i don't have any that are really comparable

I do have screws that are longer and thinner, and i have some 120mm screws that are both longer and thicker and definitely overkill

i think its time for overkill here tho

 

[Nanako]

hahah overkill works

Pictured here: Original screw on the right, and the completely disproportionate 80mm screw i just tried replacing it with on the left

For a start, it went in halfway before i heard the distinctive sound of tunnelling into wood. That explains where the toothpicks went, the hole is way too deep

I was able to tunnel it in the rest of the way without drilling and now it sits flush. i'm pretty confident that this will not move. Time to do the other one