Ancient wiring

[dodgeruk]

Hi, is it viable to replace this pendant with a class2 light fitting? No earth

 

[EFLImpudence]

Yes, it will have to be a Class 2 fitting.

 

[ericmark]

To comply with regulations since 1955 at least, only lamps with a filament bulb could be without an earth, and since 1966 only pendents. As to safety with a class II likely safe enough, but any inspection is likely to list it as a fault.

 

[Echo the husky]

I'd be more concerned with having the electrical installation inspected and tested rather than fitting different light fittings. Not sure I've ever seen cable with only red and white cores, except for speaker cables.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Not sure I've ever seen cable with only red and white cores, except for speaker cables.

I have, it's a flexible, which suggests there must be some sort of joint above the ceiling, to the fixed wiring. There might be an earth in the fixed wiring - really it needs to be investigated.

 

[Taylortwocities]

To comply with regulations since 1955 at least, only lamps with a filament bulb could be without an earth, and since 1966 only pendents.

really? what regulations are those then?

As to safety with a class II likely safe enough, but any inspection is likely to list it as a fault.

not a fault. a non-compliance with a recommendation for improvement, perhaps - C3

 

[ericmark]

really? what regulations are those then?

(ix) Lighting fittings using filament lamps installed in a room having a non-conducting floor, mounted at such a height that they cannot readily be touched and are out of reach of earthed metal.

13th edition, listing where earth can be omitted.

D.6 At every lighting point an earthing terminal shall be provided and connected to the earth-continuity conductor of the final sub-circuit.

14th edition.

A circuit protective conductor shall be run to and terminated at each point in wiring and at each accessory except a lampholder having no exposed-conductive-parts and suspended from such a point.

17th edition.

The lamp should have a terminal for the earth. However, often missing.

 

[Taylortwocities]

Nothing in the current regs. (18th edition) then?

The lamp should have a terminal for the earth. However, often missing.

None of my GU10 lamps have a terminal for an earth. They are made of plastic