Anti-Semitism

[Highway Man]

If y'all lemme know when they're coming round we can have tea and cakes prepared for a cosy chat.

What cakes?

 

[noseall]

What cakes?

Fruit cakes...

I did report the thread,

 

[noseall]

The mods aren't interested

Nor is anyone else boyo.

 

[noseall]

But are still lies.

Correct. Seems their willingness to make fools of themselves has hit new heights.

Reporting a thread attacking Bibis murderous regime, as are 3/4 of the world's population. Good luck with that boyos.

 

[Lower]

That is, of course, a lie.

Sticks and stones. But anti semitism has a stench that persists, and you stink.

 

[ATTQ]

Incidentally . . . Do you know why the Jews are so hated? Throughout history they have been persecuted & hated in general by every society they have ever settled in, but do you know why? It is often said it's because they killed Christ but I don't buy that. So what is the best reason you can think of???

They weren't particularly hated anywhere other than Europe, so look at the ever (still) present European xenophobia for your answer. And the fact that it wasn't just Jews that were persecuted but other "unassimilated" people. Same **** rising today with a new target for populists to create fear of for political gain

 

[aveatry]

They weren't particularly hated anywhere other than Europe, so look at the ever (still) present European xenophobia for your answer. And the fact that it wasn't just Jews that were persecuted but other "unassimilated" people. Same **** rising today with a new target for populists to create fear of for political gain

Another one telling everyone they live in a little white village that has not been turned into a ship hole.

 

[fillyboy]

They weren't particularly hated anywhere other than Europe

How many are left in Africa or other Middle Eastern countries. Very few, they've largely been driven out.

 

[ATTQ]

Another one telling everyone they live in a little white village that has not been turned into a ship hole.

I was going to post this on the far right thread but you perfectly led into it. There are a lot of people out there dissatisfied with how their life of daytime drinking has turned out and can almost hold one thought in their head at a time. Easy pickings for someone to come and blame a scapegoat while making off with whats left of the wealth of the nation

 

[ATTQ]

How many are left in Africa or other Middle Eastern countries. Very few, they've largely been driven out.

Yes I used past tense for a reason. Driven out? or moved to Israel on the promise of free land, free education, free health care etc in a Western supported barbwire surrounded gate guarded community. The hatred has spread throughout the region around Palestine, for more tangible reasons than the hatred in Europe which was largely based on myths on repeat. Somewhat ironic how the lesser anti-semitism ended with something that created much more substantial anti-semitism. The Arabs don't typically differentiate between Jews and Zionists (just refer to Israelis as "Yahudis") as practically every Jew they come in contact with is pointing a gun at them and ruining their lives. But before that it was the Muslims who had least problem with Jews existing as they expect them to continue to exist and live mixed with them to the end of time. It is expected that there will be Jews, Christians, polytheists etc living among them. Think about that for a second. We don't have that in our mythos, in England we could if we were narrow minded, expect a right to only encounter other Englanders. Which brings it back full circle to the xenophobia we seem unable to keep in check

 

[fillyboy]

Yes I used past tense for a reason. Driven out? or moved to Israel on the promise of free land, free education, free health care etc in a Western supported barbwire surrounded gate guarded community. The hatred has spread throughout the region around Palestine, for more tangible reasons than the hatred in Europe which was largely based on myths on repeat. Somewhat ironic how the lesser anti-semitism ended with something that created much more substantial anti-semitism. The Arabs don't typically differentiate between Jews and Zionists (just refer to Israelis as "Yahudis") as practically every Jew they come in contact with is pointing a gun at them and ruining their lives. But before that it was the Muslims who had least problem with Jews existing as they expect them to continue to exist and live mixed with them to the end of time. It is expected that there will be Jews, Christians, polytheists etc living among them. Think about that for a second. We don't have that in our mythos, in England we could if we were narrow minded, expect a right to only encounter other Englanders. Which brings it back full circle to the xenophobia we seem unable to keep in check

Welcome back Himmy.

 

[ATTQ]

Welcome back Himmy.

Oh ffs. Someone you use to try to cow new people into silence by claiming its a banned member come back with a new name. Seen exactly this before by gatekeeper wannabes on other forums.

 

[noseall]

Sticks and stones. But anti semitism has a stench that persists, and you stink.

Not as much as you liars.

 

[Odds]

Yes I used past tense for a reason. Driven out? or moved to Israel on the promise of free land, free education, free health care etc in a Western supported barbwire surrounded gate guarded community. The hatred has spread throughout the region around Palestine, for more tangible reasons than the hatred in Europe which was largely based on myths on repeat. Somewhat ironic how the lesser anti-semitism ended with something that created much more substantial anti-semitism. The Arabs don't typically differentiate between Jews and Zionists (just refer to Israelis as "Yahudis") as practically every Jew they come in contact with is pointing a gun at them and ruining their lives. But before that it was the Muslims who had least problem with Jews existing as they expect them to continue to exist and live mixed with them to the end of time. It is expected that there will be Jews, Christians, polytheists etc living among them. Think about that for a second. We don't have that in our mythos, in England we could if we were narrow minded, expect a right to only encounter other Englanders. Which brings it back full circle to the xenophobia we seem unable to keep in check

In this country anti-semitism stems from the time of Edward I who wanted loans from the Jewish moneylenders to prosecute his campaign against the Scots: they refused to lend him so much as a groat and consequently rumours spread of 'how they killed Christ', leading to a pogrom forcing them across the Channel into Europe. Flanders, i think.

Ironically, Jews were allowed to loan money as it was deemed to be ursury by the Catholic church who banned Christians from going into the trade. Old Longshanks has much to answer for.

 

[ATTQ]

In this country anti-semitism stems from the time of Edward I who wanted loans from the Jewish moneylenders to prosecute his campaign against the Scots: they refused to lend him so much as a groat and consequently rumours spread of 'how they killed Christ', leading to a pogrom forcing them across the Channel into Europe. Flanders, i think.

Ironically, Jews were allowed to loan money as it was deemed to be ursury by the Catholic church who banned Christians from going into the trade. Old Longshanks has much to answer for.

The way I understand it similar was happening across Europe. Usury also forbidden in Judaism but it is only specified when between jews. Loophole used by Christian rulers (who couldn't deal with usury) allowed (practically forced) jews to do money lending but heavily taxed them to profit from it on the DL (rank hypocrisy nothing new) so to cover the taxes they lent at high rates making them unpopular to start with. Then if debt got out of hand what could be easier than arrange for a little pogrom of the money lenders using some story, hey presto debt cleared. Those stories repeated created the antisemitism blood libel stories.

But I don't think thats what did for the jews 100 years ago. That was merely the presence of more unassimilated people than the mono-culturalist Europeans could digest, or at least enough that they could be pointed to as a problem. If you read Herzl's judenstaat he's really clear that its just a numbers problem, it wasn't the old blood libel stories. The Jewish Board of Guardians (precursor to board of deputies) early 1900s was turning jews away if they were "unsuitable" and that was primarily if they would "fit in" or not. The eastern european Jews were used to being able to be overtly jewish and weren't going to assimilate like the western jews had learnt to. And why should they? Can't western Europeans accept that people are different and thats ok? No they seem to have a dangerous problem with that and the western jews knew it and knew **** was going to happen if too many came, and they were proved right. Shame for the Roma that it ended up being (another) inquisition level purge which caught anyone else who didn't "fit in".