What thing was ruined because it turned into a rich person's hobby?

[Ivor Windybottom]

Fishing...

I watched a fair few of Aquaholic's reviews recently. Found them interesting, especially how they fit everything around everything else in 3D.

I concluded that up to £10m they get better and better. Beyond that you get less extra, a £20m boat isn't twice as good.

So I'd advise that you stick to a nice cheap £10m budget one.

 

[Brigadier]

I watched a fair few of Aquaholic's reviews recently. Found them interesting, especially how they fit everything around everything else in 3D.

I concluded that up to £10m they get better and better. Beyond that you get less extra, a £20m boat isn't twice as good.

So I'd advise that you stick to a nice cheap £10m budget one.

Like a hotel then, but with more zeroes.

 

[motorbiking]

I watched a fair few of Aquaholic's reviews recently. Found them interesting, especially how they fit everything around everything else in 3D.

I concluded that up to £10m they get better and better. Beyond that you get less extra, a £20m boat isn't twice as good.

So I'd advise that you stick to a nice cheap £10m budget one.

I think the sweet spot for luxury motorboats is around 1.5-3M. more than that and you are just buying more crew quarters. Sailing boats its about half. Sadly if you are buying new and want something 45-60ft (motorboat) with less than 1M to spend you are buying a caravan on water. The build quality of new motor boats with 500k price tags is shocking.

It is a truly ridiculous world.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

I struggle to not get cynical even with campers and caravans. Some see a dream holiday home that can whisk them away to amazing places. I see a builder's van with some plywood bolted in for five figures of extra dosh.

 

[fillyboy]

I struggle to not get cynical even with campers and caravans. Some see a dream holiday home that can whisk them away to amazing places. I see a builder's van with some plywood bolted in for five figures of extra dosh.

I love my builders van with some plywood.

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• fillyboy
• Friday at 10:25 AM

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

Looks lovely. I bet it didn't cost the £60k you'd need to pay if someone else had stuck it all in.

I don't mind paying someone for their work and genius, but the margins on campers seem a bit generous to me. Which is why many DIY them.

 

[Highway Man]

I love my builders van with some plywood.

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• fillyboy
• Friday at 10:25 AM

Is that your new one?

 

[noseall]

I struggle to not get cynical even with campers and caravans. Some see a dream holiday home that can whisk them away to amazing places. I see a builder's van with some plywood bolted in for five figures of extra dosh.

A lot come from a camping background, so a camper van will seem like luxury by comparison. My missus and her folks liked the outdoorsy type holiday all throughout their lives, so the progression from leaky tent up to £80k camper has been a slow one, but an upwardly progressive one.

I'm not a massive fan but have agreed to the odd night in a tent and have taken the FIL's van away a couple of times when the sprogs were small.

They on the other hand have travelled to dozens of places throughout Europe and had the best time.

 

[fillyboy]

Is that your new one?

Yeah should be ready in a few weeks time, would've been finished now but we've spent a few weeks in Hertfordshire. Will crack on again Monday. I'll put a few pics up when it's done.
We'll use it but for me the pleasure is building it, I'm not keen on the retirement malarkey, I need a project.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

I sleep in my little van. It's a car version so already has carpet. I took out all the seats other than the driver's, so I have a 6' + length to sleep in. I have an Argos air bed and a sleeping bag, plus a set of custom-made rubber sucker window blinds.

My camper cost about £100, as I already had the van anyway. Which needs to remain a van, for carrying stuff.

Roughing it but still vastly superior to a tent. Up off the ground and won't blow away or rustle about in the wind.

 

[fillyboy]

I sleep in my little van. It's a car version so already has carpet. I took out all the seats other than the driver's, so I have a 6' + length to sleep in. I have an Argos air bed and a sleeping bag, plus a set of custom-made rubber sucker window blinds.

My camper cost about £100, as I already had the van anyway. Which needs to remain a van, for carrying stuff.

Roughing it but still vastly superior to a tent. Up off the ground and won't blow away or rustle about in the wind.

I can't get me head around these 'tentbox' things people are putting on the roof of their cars.

Why?

 

[motorbiking]

I struggle to not get cynical even with campers and caravans. Some see a dream holiday home that can whisk them away to amazing places. I see a builder's van with some plywood bolted in for five figures of extra dosh.

That’s exactly how I felt when my ex wanted to get one. A £15k caravan bolted to a £30k van cost 60k.

However, we had some fantastic holidays when the kids were small, spending weeks parked on or near beaches in the south and west of France.

 

[pete01]

I can't get me head around these 'tentbox' things people are putting on the roof of their cars.

Why?

It gives you that freedom of sleeping in a field and *****ing in a bush...

 

[fillyboy]

When I did the Vivaro LWB I spent £3800, the van was worth about £3k, sold it for £10300, that was last Ocober, if I'd kept it until now I probably could have got minimum £12K.

The Boxer cost £12K including vat, It should come in at a little over £6500 spent, possibly £7k with a few extras. electrics are much more sophisticated than the vivaro, much bigger leisure battery, 300ah, bigger solar panel, this all snowballs with ancilliary electrics, I'll have main electric plug in, this one has a diesel heater, fridge, the only thing it won't have is hot water which I thought about but cost and complexity stopped me. I might in the future add an awning and a pull out step so the costs may still go up.
I've insured it for £25k which is probably on the low side.

 

[pete01]

My Mrs wants us to buy a static caravan...30k, 6k a year then on ya bike with 2k after 15 years