Space stuff...

[noseall]

In reality, it's both.

Correct. There is a lot of wishful thinking going on here.

Folk have just made a big deal about flying around the Moon. It has taken much planning, great effort, lots of set-backs and all the tech available we have today - to do a moon fly-past.

We are centuries away from putting a man on Mars.

 

[motorbiking]

within 20 years for sure. . experts agree

Humans to Mars - NASA

Like the Moon, Mars is a rich destination for scientific discovery and a driver of technologies that will enable humans to travel and explore far from Earth.

www.nasa.gov

 

[Brigadier]

It's not the tech thats missing, its the business case.

Interesting.

within 20 years for sure. . experts agree

Humans to Mars - NASA

Like the Moon, Mars is a rich destination for scientific discovery and a driver of technologies that will enable humans to travel and explore far from Earth.

www.nasa.gov

Didn't take you long to row back.

 

[motorbiking]

Interesting.




Didn't take you long to row back.

you think they are mutually exclusive?

Strong business case - do it faster
weaker business case but strong desire - do it slower.

its not rocket science

 

[motorbiking]

To demonstrate that you're arguing with yourself, and agreeing with those you're purporting to be arguing with.

whereas you are just looking for an argument, as usual.

 

[Brigadier]

You said that we already have the tech.

So, I'm interested in your "business case" reasoning.

CEO to MBK:

So, you want $4 billion, for one launch, to put a human back on the moon?

Well, not "on" the moon exactly..........

 

[Brigadier]

whereas you are just looking for an argument, as usual.

Not agreeing with someone - citing solid evidence and facts - is not "arguing".

 

[motorbiking]

You said that we already have the tech.

you are welcome to read the article

 

[noseall]

Didn't take you long to row back.

Space travel has all but stalled, if not gone backwards in terms of where we ought to be in distance from the Earth, type space travel. Yes, we can recycle water - on Earth. Yes we can load a spacecraft with enough provisions for a long journey - theoretically. Yes we can can load a spacecraft with enough fuel for a long journey - theoretically.

These hurdles will take several decades to refine, if they ever do. These are not necessarily scientific issues but real, life-ending obstacles that are not going to be swatted away with tech. We simply don't have the means to transport life huge distances from the Earth.

We can barely put together a Moon fly-past.

 

[noseall]

You said that we already have the tech.

We have a lot of theory.

We are centuries away from long distance manned travel.

 

[Brigadier]

you are welcome to read the article

You said that we already have the tech.

So, I'm interested in your "business case" reasoning.

CEO to MBK:

So, you want $4 billion, for one launch, to put a human back on the moon?

Well, not "on" the moon exactly..........

 

[motorbiking]

Not agreeing with someone - citing solid evidence and facts - is not "arguing".

A quick scan of the thread, suggests you might have forgotten this bit

 

[Brigadier]

Space travel has all but stalled, if not gone backwards in terms of where we ought to be in distance from the Earth, type space travel. Yes, we can recycle water - on Earth. Yes we can load a spacecraft with enough provisions for a long journey - theoretically. Yes we can can load a spacecraft with enough fuel for a long journey - theoretically.

These hurdles will take several decades to refine, if they ever do. These are not necessarily scientific issues but real, life-ending obstacles that are not going to be swatted away with tech. We simply don't have the means to transport life huge distances from the Earth.

We can barely put together a Moon fly-past.

And the ultimate limit :

a fragile bag of flesh that, even with the best of luck, might get 100 years of useful time....

 

[Odds]

We have a lot of theory.

We are centuries away from long distance manned travel.

Interstellar space travel is impossible.

 

[motorbiking]

why?