35% of asylum seekers are gay.. or not

[King Billy]

So being gay should not mean one can seek asylum, if you have done illegal acts in the country of origin, they one should accept your punishment if caught.

What if they're caught spying? Should they accept their punishment?

But in the main, to get to this country by any means other than a plane, means you have come from Europe, so asylum is first safe country,

There's no requirement for an asylum seeker to seek asylum in the first country of arrival.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

You are saying that providing asylum to those suffering persecution, torture or death is not justified?
Why does the reason matter. The persecution, torture or death is not picky, and isn't any different depending on the reason for it.

There are a heck of a lot of gay people who are living in countries where this is illegal.

The idea that we should take them all is just beyond reality, it's classic idealistic lefty nonsense. It's just not possible.

They need to stay where they are, influence their leadership as gays here did in the past. The idea of a world where everyone runs away from their problems just isn't credible.

We don't need to ban gays from entering, just stop accepting at as an excuse. Probably along with a number of other flakey unprovable excuses, e.g. not liking the chicken nuggets there.

 

[King Billy]

There are a heck of a lot of gay people who are living in countries where this is illegal.

Of course. The average number of gay men in the population in 'free' countries is about 10% or young men and only 1% for older men.#
Sexuality has nothing to do with age, it's just how open people are prepared to be.
So obviously the older gay men are not open about it, just like the gay people in 'closed' societies.
In places like UK older gay men still fear discrimination. In other countries all gay men fear persecution, torture or death.
Homosexulity is like skin colour, one cannot change it.
As Eric said:

No, you can't make something one has no control of illegal, it would be like making being white skin colour illegal.

So if someone in danger of persecution, torture or death due to something thsat they can't change why deny them sanctuary?
Would you deny a black, brown or whatever colour of skin one might have, sanctuary, if they fear persecution, torture or death, due to their ethnicity?

The idea that we should take them all is just beyond reality, it's classic idealistic lefty nonsense. It's just not possible.

Resort to the ridiculous.
No-one is suggesting they will all come here.

They need to stay where they are,

and suffer the persecution, torture or death?

We don't need to ban gays from entering, just stop accepting at as an excuse.

Being gay is not an excuse for anything. It's just someone's sexuality.
If you are hetrosexual, can you stop being hetrosexual?

 

[Highway Man]

Of course. The average number of gay men in the population in 'free' countries is about 10% or young men and only 1% for older men.#
Sexuality has nothing to do with age, it's just how open people are prepared to be.
So obviously the older gay men are not open about it, just like the gay people in 'closed' societies.
In places like UK older gay men still fear discrimination. In other countries all gay men fear persecution, torture or death.
Homosexulity is like skin colour, one cannot change it.
As Eric said:

So if someone in danger of persecution, torture or death due to something thsat they can't change why deny them sanctuary?
Would you deny a black, brown or whatever colour of skin one might have, sanctuary, if they fear persecution, torture or death, due to their ethnicity?


Resort to the ridiculous.
No-one is suggesting they will all come here.


and suffer the persecution, torture or death?


Being gay is not an excuse for anything. It's just someone's sexuality.
If you are hetrosexual, can you stop being hetrosexual?

What a bore.

 

[King Billy]

What a bore.

You're not obliged to read my comments.

 

[Highway Man]

You're not obliged to read my comments.

Nobody ever does. zzzzzzzzzzzzz

 

[King Billy]

Nobody ever does. zzzzzzzzzzzzz

You obviously do.

 

[Highway Man]

You obviously do.

No I don't.

 

[King Billy]

No I don't.

Do you realise how comical your responses are?

 

[Highway Man]

Do you realise how comical your responses are?

Yes, far more than yours. I suppose that comes from being No1

 

[King Billy]

Yes, far more than yours. I suppose that comes from being No1

You're number 1 Clown?
OK, I'll accept your application.

 

[noseall]

The idea that we should take them all …

…is pure fantasy.

 

[Highway Man]

You're number 1 Clown?
OK, I'll accept your application.

Thank you, when do I get to hear the result of my application?

 

[King Billy]

Thank you, when do I get to hear the result of my application?

You're number 1 Clown?
OK, I'll accept your application.

It's a foregone conclusion.
That's what "I'll accept" means.

 

[Highway Man]

It's a foregone conclusion.
That's what "I'll accept" means.

Glad we agree that I am No1.