Pan Connector not central

[Nedman87]

Hello all,

Fitting up for my new toilet and pan connectors are a new one for me.

The Vanity unit for the concealed cistern with the toilet central has the soil pipe 50mm out of centre.

I can see you get offset Pan connectors but it looks like I need a vertical to horizontal (90 degree) pan connector.

Can this be modified with some pipework or am I looking at needing a flexible pan connector?

Iv included an image as this will probably explain the problem better than I have above haha

Thanks

 

[denso13]

There will be enough leeway in a normal long tailed bent pan connector, the top will move over enough to accommodate that.

 

[Nedman87]

Thanks @denso13

Can I be a pain and ask for a link? Maybe screwfix/b&q?

I'm assuming mcalpine is the brand I want?

 

[denso13]

Something like this, https://www.toolstation.com/mcalpine-mac-8l-macfit-wc-connector/p20672, just get it as far in to the vertical stub as far as you can.

 

[Madrab]

Or if not happy with a rigid connector sitting at an angle then one of these will accomodate the offset

https://www.screwfix.com/p/mcalpine-flexible-90-angled-pan-connector-white-340mm/28262

 

[Nedman87]

OK thanks all. Il try a solid one first and get it in as far as I can. Failing that I'll have to go flexible. It's very short so hopefully fine.

Am I better with the flexible that has a jubilee?

Also, is there any reason his soil pipe would be so tight to the t+g floor? I'm sure I get creaking from this when got water is flowing through.

I can cut some material away and silicone to stope any stress?

 

[denso13]

I can cut some material away and silicone to stope any stress?

Yes.

Am I better with the flexible that has a jubilee?

Not particularly, if you do then the one linked to above is too long, you just need a short one but may still need to cut the pipe flush with the floor to get it in.

 

[dilalio]

If you want to go whole hog... Uplift the boards and extend the soil pipe to where it needs to be.

 

[Nedman87]

If you want to go whole hog... Uplift the boards and extend the soil pipe to where it needs to be.

Yeah I'm going to open it up today and have a look before buying the new pan connector.

The other end is just the shower waste running in to it, so if I get lucky and it's all push fit, I should be able to just disconnect, cut 50mm off the toilet soil pipe end and then extend the shower waste to reach.

If its solvent welded, il probably just go with a new pan connector haha

 

[Nedman87]

So it is push fit which is good. Is this just old grease/fairy or whatever they used when they originally put the soil stack together? (Image 1)

Going to be a pain to cut unless I cut more of the floor away which I didn't really want to do but if needs must haha.

The old basin waste was through a seal directly into the 4".

Am I better to route this above the floor boards/under the cabinets (Image 2) or should I cut into the 1.5" just before it goes into the 4" and then up through the floor boards where it needs to be? (Image 3)

It's quite tight with the joists there but probably manageable.

 

[denso13]

Image 2, below the cabinets. You don't want to be cutting too much out of the joists.

 

[dilalio]

Is this just old grease/fairy or whatever they used when they originally put the soil stack together?

Could me marmite for all I know
Taste it maybe

Twist and pull and maybe some washing up liquid to help push n pull.

 

[Nedman87]

Could me marmite for all I know
Taste it maybe

Twist and pull and maybe some washing up liquid to help push n pull.

Most things I probably would, as the first joint out of a poop pipe, maybe pass

It looks sludgy but there's no evidence of water or leaking so unlikely oozing poo. Basicly what I was seeing if I got answered back

 

[Nedman87]

Image 2, below the cabinets. You don't want to be cutting too much out of the joists.

Perfect, Thanks @denso13

 

[Madrab]

Please please please don't use pushfit waste pipe fittings. They can be a problem just waiting to happen. If you are going to that trouble doing the work then always best to use solvent weld under floors.

If it's 32mm waste then usually no issue to core a hole, with the depth of those joists. You are allowed a hole up to a 1/4 of the depth of the joist, in mm (e.g - 50mm in a 200mm deep joist)