A waste of life

[Highway Man]

Seen on the TV this morning that 84% of young people are out of work and even those that have attended University for good subjects such as computer science and biomedical engineering cannot get a job.. I have often seen young people in restaurants serving and waiting etc, some working in sea side resorts serving ice cream and the such and thinking to myself, what a waste of life doing that for a living at their age. Then when I saw this news piece it sort of makes you re think and look upon them as lucky to be working and earning. I wonder how many of them may have degrees and this is all that they can get. A terrible state of affairs.

 

[noseall]

Seen on the TV this morning that 84% of young people are out of work and even those that have attended University for good subjects such as computer science and biomedical engineering cannot get a job.. I have often seen young people in restaurants serving and waiting etc, some working in sea side resorts serving ice cream and the such and thinking to myself, what a waste of life doing that for a living at their age. Then when I saw this news piece it sort of makes you re think and look upon them as lucky to be working and earning. I wonder how many of them may have degrees and this is all that they can get. A terrible state of affairs.

Young people have done menial, seasonal and part time work, since young people were invented.

 

[Highway Man]

Young people have done menial, seasonal and part time work, since young people were invented.

I am quite sure that they have, however it seems forced upon them now rather than a career choice.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

When I graduated with an engineering degree then got a bit of work experience I could pick and choose jobs. Then everything changed, from the early 2000s manufacturing just steadily vapourised.

I was head-hunted for one job, where the role was to go and work for a UK manufacturer on a very good wage, where I would be rotated around every job in the factory, including fixing machines, managing - the lot, while not telling anyone why I was there. Then they'd sack everyone else, pack up the factory and send it all together with me to China, where I'd teach all the Chinese how to do it all. Then I'd go home with a big pile of money. I didn't do it, but it was representative of what happened under Blair/Brown and beyond, while seemingly no politician even noticed it happening.

There are lots of useless degrees, always have been. But now many difficult technical degrees have become useless too, simply because there's so little industry left.

 

[aveatry]

There is no chance the student loans will ever be paid off, they may as well scrap them - remove all the extortionate interest that has built up and allow students - or Mum and Dad to pay off the original loans in full.

 

[Brigadier]

Like it or not, the world has changed. A lot.

How many of us see that people can make millions from posting videos of themselves tipping packets of flour over themselves or whatever........

....... and are baffled by it all?


It does seem that our traditional views of what adds value are rapidly becoming obsolete.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

True. I watch lots on YouTube. There are people I watch, who produce documentaries single-handedly that are as good as a TV channel or possibly better. You can see from the number of views that they're doing what they enjoy and making pretty decent money, as 1000 views is roughly £1. So that's a career that just didn't exist a few years ago. Not all is doom and gloom I suppose.

 

[Odds]

I thought this was a thread dedicated to splineless and all the far right trolls in here.

 

[pete01]

Bet this bloke don't think hes wasting his life and neither do I watching him.

 

[diy_fun_uk]

If the experts are to be believed, AI is going to be as significant a change (if not more) than the industrial revolution. When it comes to jobs/careers, times they are a changing sure enough. It's a very complex multi-faceted issue.

When it comes to youngsters getting their first job (whether as a stop gap or beginning of a career) what I'd be interested to know is this:

1. Take any reasonably populated area in the UK. Then take a specific street in a housing scheme. From that street, in 1970, how many jobs were available to younger people within say a 5 mile radius. Also, on average, how many people were applying for those jobs.

2. Repeat step 1 for each subsequent decade, 1980, 1990, 2000 and so on.

I'd be interested to see those stats. The comedian Billy Connolly (grew up in Glasgow, born 1942) used to tell the story of people leaving school on the Friday, the factory gates opening and kids being able to immediately go from school to a factory job. He himself became a welder in the shipyards.

Now, we have kids leaving school, nowt (or very little) to walk straight into, and jobs that attract dozens or hundreds of applicants. Some kids are applying for hundreds of jobs without success.

That's 'progress' for you ...

 

[MNW67]

There are not 84% of young people out of work! That would be insane. The figure quoted is the number of out of work young people who want a job. It is meant to show that the vast majority of out of work young people actually want to work.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

Bet this bloke don't think hes wasting his life and neither do I watching him.

Fab. Wonder what happened in Part 2?

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

Given that we have mass youth unemployment and declining industry across almost all sectors, can anyone explain why it's a good idea to welcome 100,000s per year of unskilled young migrants?

In the past we specifically allowed and encouraged immigration while we had lots of heavy industries that were desperate for workers. This was shortly after many men had been killed in a war.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

One in six young people will not be in work or training in five years without action, report warns

A report warns the UK is "at risk of a lost generation" with number of 16 to 24-year-olds out of work, education or training set to rise to 1.25 million by 2031.

www.bbc.co.uk

Just one million of them, one in six according to the government broadcaster. Very bad, and getting rapidly worse.

 

[Highway Man]

There are not 84% of young people out of work! That would be insane. The figure quoted is the number of out of work young people who want a job. It is meant to show that the vast majority of out of work young people actually want to work.

Oh yes thats right, regardless it still is the same outcome to the topic regardles of the percentage. A waste of life working in a mundane job or a necessity.