There are some sick people in this country.

[morqthana]

What would you have done?

I would have not gone all mouth-and-trousery on an internet forum fantasising about what I "would" have done and the illegal violence I "would" have meted out.

 

[pete01]

I would have not gone all mouth-and-trousery on an internet forum fantasising about what I "would" have done and the illegal violence I "would" have meted out.

Illigal violence against against a crocodile...

 

[morqthana]

"Care in the Community" was just money-saving wrapped up in a kind-sounding disguise.

Hopefully they're the Tory Party 1.0, i.e. before Cameron, May, Boris etc. Give the country the bitter medicine it desperately needs, Thatcher style. Cut everything while the piggies squeal.

"Care in the Community" was just money-saving wrapped up in a kind-sounding disguise, introduced as a money-saving scheme by Thatcher as part of her cutting everything because it was the bitter medicine the country desperately needed.

 

[morqthana]

Don't forget, mottie said he'd kill the person with his bare hands before knowing any facts

I doubt he'd have any left after taking on crocodiles.

 

[morqthana]

a good boot in the crocs face would send it running

You think?

 

[morqthana]

Illigal violence against against a crocodile...

No, not against a crocodile

Just heard that on the Radio, why did he do it do we know?

How terrible that must have been for the parents, I'd have pushed him in.

I’d have killed him with my bare hands.

 

[Mottie]

I would have not gone all mouth-and-trousery on an internet forum fantasising about what I "would" have done and the illegal violence I "would" have meted out.

I asked what you would have done, not what you wouldn’t have done so come on, what do you think you would have done?

Anyway, what I would have done was before I knew the bloke had mental issues. As I’ve said, my anger would be directed to the two lazy, incompetent *******s in charge of him.

 

[Mottie]

Care in the Community" was just money-saving wrapped up in a kind-sounding disguise, introduced as a money-saving scheme by Thatcher

…and carried on by successive governments including Labour.

 

[morqthana]

There was a large 'mental asylum' in Bodmin which I think has been demolished or at least partly demolished, there's a modern community hospital on the site now.
Anyway, locals still use the term 'he's gone completely Bodmin' to describe nutters.

My Dad used to use a term derived from the name of a transit camp in India during WWII.

And the word "bedlam" has entered every-day use.

 

[morqthana]

And the opinion of the parents of the 3 year old, and the loved ones of valdo calocane victims and many, many more.

We only hear about the "many many more" who go on to do terrible things. The media does not report the many, many, millions more who do not go on to do terrible things.

I'm not saying that some of the decisions to discharge people "into the community" are not flawed, sometimes deeply so, but we need to look at the numbers involved, see what we can do to improve the decision making, and decide what level of risk we are prepared to accept if we are not to lock up millions of people to guard against a handful doing terrible things.

 

[pete01]

No, not against a crocodile

You wouldn't be tempted to beat the shìt out of someone that harms your child

 

[Highway Man]

You wouldn't be tempted to beat the shìt out of someone that harms your child

He is a complete nutjob, you would be very unlucky to have him as your only source of help as your child is getting closer to a crocs mouth.

 

[morqthana]

Should be investigating those that were supposed to be looking after him. FFS, who lets a mentally ill person out of their control in a crocodile shed?

Serious, genuine, questions: Do we know he was "mentally ill"? What "mental illness" did he have? Do we know what level of "control" his carers were expected to provide?

 

[pete01]

Serious, genuine, questions: Do we know he was "mentally ill"? What "mental illness" did he have? Do we know what level of "control" his carers were expected to provide?

Probably not but its a good excuse for what he's done.

 

[morqthana]

Yep. Unfortunately, minimum wage = minimum effort.

I know you don't like to answer this, and might even frame it as an expression of support for 3-year olds to be thrown to crocodiles, but whose ideologically-driven choice was it to cut the money available for carers?