Wiring fo exterior light

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Hi, Just a quick post for some advice on wiring a switch for an exterior light,

The existing switch was a double switch for dining room light and hall light, hall light was also switched on from upstairs,

I have added a treble switch for the new exterior light but i am now stuck on where to wire the new light in the switch, i have fitted the new switch the exact same as the previous one apart from the wiring for exterior light

Any help much appreciated


Sorry for not talking in the technical terms, but electrics is definitley not my strong point

i have also taken a photo of switch with wiring but i am not sure if i can post it on here
 
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You need both live and neutral to complete a circuit for your exterior light. It is unusual (though not unheard of and not technically wrong) to find both at a light switch. Most modern installations only have live conductors (and earth) present at switches.

At the top of this section of the forum is a post entitled 'For Reference', which has a 'sticky' icon to keep it at the top. Read it; it's full of lots of useful advice and diagrams. If you still don't know what to do you might be in a better position to ask for more specific advice. Hope that helps.
 
Thanks for the info, had a look in 'for reference' and cannot find what i need to know, anyway i'll keep looking,

would it be possible for me to email a picture of the wiring on the switch to someone, would be better for me to explain then

cheers

steve
 
So you have a switch, a light, but no cable in between them? If, in the switch, all the insulated wires present are connected to the switch terminals then, whatever the colour, they are all live wires. If this is the case then you should be able to adapt the (many) lighting diagrams in the For Reference post to your needs. Essentially, you need to pick up the lighting circuit at some exissting point and extend it to where you need it and connect in a switch cable... which you run back to the switch.

If some of the insulated wires in the switch are connected together in a terminal block then these are the neutrals and you will be able to simply run a single cable from the switch to the new light position. This is a less frequently encountered scenario.

In both cases earth wires should be green/yellow sleeved, connected together and ideally connected to the galvanised back box and/or to the faceplate of the switch if it is a metal one.

To supply any piece of electrical equipment you need, in order: A source of potential, a live conductor with a switch somewhere along it, which terminates at the load. Then you need a neutral conductor to carry the current back to the source. This is what all the diagrams describe in some way or other. If you can't interpret them then maybe you shouldn't be messing with electricity. Seriously

Another thought: If you are talking about adding a high wattage floodlight outside then you need to consider taking a spur from a higher capacity circuit. If you're not sure about any of the above, please call in an electrician. (By the way, I just spent an hour-and-a-half sorting out a lighting problem for a DIY-er who got lost and spent all day blowing fuses - I charged him £40 and he was so relieved to be able to get the lights back on before his missus came home he gave me £60! There's no shame in seeking professional help, but a lot to lose if you chance it)
 
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just a quick update on my original question, i have taken a photo of the switch i need to wire for the exterior light ( sorry about the photo quality )

the left switch is the dining room light- one way

the middle switch is the landing light- two way

the switch on the right is where i want to wire the new exterior light

I just need to know where should i wire the exterior light wires


cheers

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re read dingbats post, basicaly he is saying you can not wire your light as you think you can, you have no neutral, without, your light will not work
 
I cant see how one of them switches is acting 2way??

Agree with Dingbat entirely.
 
the middle switch is acting two way, switches off from upstairs too, i understand what dingbat says but i honestly thought i would be able possible to connect a third light to the switch?
 
dingbat said:
If this is the case then you should be able to adapt the (many) lighting diagrams in the For Reference post to your needs


does this mean it is possible?......
 
not without neutral, and i cant see how it is two way either (needs 3 wires c L1 L2 on one switch, see how its done in the for refernce section)
 
what you need to do is bring a power feed from the lighting cuitcuit to a junction box

then run a totally seperate switch cable from here to the other switch on that place

wire the junction box in the same way you would a rose (see for reference topic)
 
Poor quality of the picture is one thing, but do yourself a favour, get someone to do this for you. The center switch can't switch 2-way as there's no third wire and the quality of the joint to the common of the centre switch is worse than the picture quality. You should not be able to see ANY bare conductor!!
 
oilman said:
Poor quality of the picture is one thing, but do yourself a favour, get someone to do this for you. The center switch can't switch 2-way as there's no third wire and the quality of the joint to the common of the centre switch is worse than the picture quality. You should not be able to see ANY bare conductor!!

Firstly...I did apologise for the poor picture quality as camera had to be close up!

And the middle switch i can guarantee is 2 way, if turning on and off from 2 different points is 2 way?.....

and oilman, do you have a camera i can buy from you , i thought this was an electrical forum, not a forum for discussing how to take decent photos!
 

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