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pete01 · 12 Oct 2025

JohnD said:
I gave some examples of how you might measure integration. Jenrick the racist used none of them. He just worked on skin colour.

Where are your examples?

Nothing to post just my experiences of the city I live in.

aveatry · 12 Oct 2025

Charlie George said:
The people on here supporting the mass immigration that disclose their county, seem to be from areas with the least integration in the Country here in Manchester there are areas which have become a micro economy, giving nothing to the wider area, for example i give weekly to a local cricket club (more than half of the players are of Pakistani/Banglashi descent) none are on the list of donors.

Exactly what I said to notch about the time the polish were in my town - he just did not believe it
Here

aveatry said:
When the polish were here they slept on the floor 10 in a house rented to them by another migrant for cash. They spent their money in the local polish shops who's owners sent the money home and the workers also sent their money home so almost nothing was contributing to the economy. And when they go home to visit they dont even fill up on petrol in this country as the cars get loaded into a lorry and driven back in the lorry.

Notch7 · 12 Oct 2025

aveatry said:
Exactly as I said back on Oct 5th ----- here

The only explanation is that he has dementia and has forgotten all the examples he was given

thank you for your post,

However, I have not been given any examples

if you can find any examples backed up with evidence, please go ahead I look forward to your reply

Notch7 · 12 Oct 2025

aveatry said:
Exactly what I said to notch about the time the polish were in my town - he just did not believe it
Here

you made claims for which you have no evidence

for example: "they spent their money in the local Polish shop, whose owners sent the money home............."

you have zero evidence to back that up

and in any case a Polish shop is not different to any other shop.........they have to pay business rates, income or corporation tax, VAT etc etc.

Highway Man · 12 Oct 2025

Notch7 said:
you made claims for which you have no evidence

for example: "they spent their money in the local Polish shop, whose owners sent the money home............."

you have zero evidence to back that up

and in any case a Polish shop is not different to any other shop.........they have to pay business rates, income or corporation tax, VAT etc etc.

Kin loser

aveatry · 12 Oct 2025

Notch7 said:
for example: "they spent their money in the local Polish shop, whose owners sent the money home............."
you have zero evidence to back that up

I stood behind them in the kin post office queue almost every day sending money with western union. Recognised him from the polish shop next f-ing door

Knave of Hearts · 12 Oct 2025

aveatry said:
I stood behind them in the kin post office queue almost every day sending money with western union. Recognised him from the polish shop next f-ing door

Anecdotal evidence is no evidence. It's just anecdotes. Like Highway Man shooed a load of asylum seekers away from a memorial, but he won't tell us how he knew they were asylum seekers.
I could tell you about the time I dived into the water and saved a young lad's life.
Actually it was the local paddling pool, and my son was just panicking a bit.

He'd have been fine if I'd left him to find his own feet, but I could see others were thinking about jumping in, so I thought I'd save them getting wet. i was in my trunks.

johnny2007 · 12 Oct 2025

aveatry said:
Exactly as I said back on Oct 5th ----- here

The only explanation is that he has dementia and has forgotten all the examples he was given

Notchy is using the usual leftist method: ignore all evidence, ignore everything people say and carry on saying that there's no evidence of x,y and z.
They do this with every subject.
Other methods of self-inflict righteousness include attacking the other side, play the racist card, pick on a few words out of contest, pretend to be offended, claim that human rights have been violated and condemn victims of crime because 20 years ago they got a parking ticket.

Charlie George · 12 Oct 2025

Due to Brexit we have replaced the Polish and other Europeans with a new breed of immigrant, who are here to stay unlike many of the workers from the EU who likely would return home, thus easing the strain on our NHS etc.

Knave of Hearts · 12 Oct 2025

johnny2007 said:
Notchy is using the usual leftist method: ignore all evidence, ignore everything people say and carry on saying that there's no evidence of x,y and z.
They do this with every subject.
Other methods of self-inflict righteousness include attacking the other side, play the racist card, pick on a few words out of contest, pretend to be offended, claim that human rights have been violated and condemn victims of crime because 20 years ago they got a parking ticket.

Anecdotal evidence is just stories. It's not evidence.

We can all recite stories.

Knave of Hearts · 12 Oct 2025

Charlie George said:
Due to Brexit we have replaced the Polish and other Europeans with a new breed of immigrant, who are here to stay unlike many of the workers from the EU who likely would return home, thus easing the strain on our NHS etc.

I believe this was predictable.
And most of those that voted still preferred Brexit, so they must have voted for the change of demographics of immigrants.

SPLINE · 12 Oct 2025

pete01 said:
What did he say?

Robert Generic said that he visited Birmingham recently and saw no white faces.

Notch7 · 12 Oct 2025

Highway Man said:
Kin loser

people get angry when they are asked for facts to back up their opinion

Notch7 · 12 Oct 2025

aveatry said:
I stood behind them in the kin post office queue almost every day sending money with western union. Recognised him from the polish shop next f-ing door

that doesnt prove they did not benefit the UK economy

it just proves they sent some money home to relatives

your anecdote does not contains any data, but help you Ive done the research for which shows EU migrants working in this country paid more in tax than they took out

Polish migrants: give in taxes £2.2b
Polish migrants: take in taxes £911m

EU migrant workers contribute £2,300 more per year to UK than average British citizen, study reveals

'If the UK’s new relationship with Europe involves reduced migration, this analysis suggests the tax burden on others will have to rise'

EU migrant workers contribute £2,300 more per year to UK than average British citizen, study reveals

'If the UK’s new relationship with Europe involves reduced migration, this analysis suggests the tax burden on others will have to rise'

www.independent.co.uk

European Economic Area (EEA) immigrants contributed 34% more in taxes than they received as benefits,

Evidence that proves the true effect of immigration on the UK

Thorough research led by Professor Christian Dustmann has guided parliament and public debate over immigration, rebutting poorly substantiated claims of negative financial costs of migration to the UK

www.ucl.ac.uk

Highway Man · 12 Oct 2025

Notch7 said:
people get angry when they are asked for facts to back up their opinion

You have had them. What makes you think that I am upset? I go on an amazing cruise this week, I cannot be upset I am way over excited..

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