Trump is suing the BBC for Ten Billion USD.

carmanmemoranda · 2025-12-17T12:37:39+0000

Ivor Windybottom said:
I can't find a transcript of the original speech or the BBC's edit, and it's not important enough to me to endure two hours of rambling speech.

So you're unaware of the info but able to make your mind up ?

Ivor Windybottom said:
But I'm sure, from watching the BBC's edit and the two sentences that they took parts from, that they fundamentally created a new sentence with a different meaning to the two sentences they took the words from.

Again. Did it alter the meaning of his speech/ramble?

Ivor Windybottom said:
Every journalist would know that they were doing something wrong, it couldn't have been an accident.

Only by not pointing out it had been done. For which they apologised

carmanmemoranda · 2025-12-17T12:38:21+0000

fillyboy said:
"I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."

That's 1 part of a very long speech

Do you want to include other parts?

noseall · 2025-12-17T12:48:28+0000

fillyboy said:
"I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."

"...I know that over the last few weeks, the incendiary lies I have repeated, morning noon and night, in the build up to this very well publicised speech, will fall upon the ears of very, very angry Americans. Those very people I lied about (stealing your election) are down there at the capitol building and are about to swear in an impostor. Please go and stop them..."

noseall · 2025-12-17T12:49:44+0000

carmanmemoranda said:
That's 1 part of a very long speech

Do you want to include other parts?

Filly doesn't need to and neither do the BBC. The results of Trumps riot speech are there for all to see.

motorbiking · 2025-12-17T13:10:20+0000

carmanmemoranda said:
That there are 2 issues

Time will tell

I think there lawyers will be enough, without you

We've all seen your legal input before, been proved wrong.

don't be daft.

motorbiking · 2025-12-17T13:14:32+0000

noseall said:
Nonsense.

The Panorama edit was put out after the riots. Trump gave a speech to the rioters - they violently rioted. The BBC has no case to answer. Even the Torygraph believe it's frivolous.

Keep hallucinating.

Nosenout shares his wisdom

another trump hater who cannot see past his hatred of trump to see the wrong the beeb did and have apologised for.

Ivor Windybottom · 2025-12-17T13:15:56+0000

Who knows whether it will succeed, there are loads of angles to this and plenty of overpaid lawyers will thrash this out for years.

But... anyone who thinks the BBC didn't change the meaning of his words and that it wasn't deliberate is just being ignorant, probably intentionally just because they've decided Trump is some kind of cartoon villain. If that's your mindset then there really isn't much point in discussing it.

morqthana · 2025-12-17T13:19:13+0000

Ivor Windybottom said:
a state-run organisation

We don't have one of those.

Nor can you go to prison for licence fee evasion. If you're going to try and mix up going to prison for non-payment of fines with non-payment of the licence fee [USEFUL HINT: Not everybody's mind is as mixed-up as yours], you might as well try to claim that people are being imprisoned for parking on double yellow lines.

But if you want to claim that

Ivor Windybottom said:
Eventually the police will take you away from your home by force and you'll be imprisoned.

then you must know, surely, that you're going to have to produce the figures showing how many people this is happening to.

Unless (perish the thought) you're just seething with anti-BBC bllx because you want to see them shut down, and think that people are such fools that they won't see right through you.

What's your trusted source for "information" like this? Black Belt Barrister? Chilli Jon Carne? Richard Vobes?

No - there's only one thing going on here, only one reason you don't like the BBC, and it's not because of the licence fee.

It's because of this, and only this:

motorbiking · 2025-12-17T13:22:00+0000

Point 16 in the claim is a bit of a stretch, but their activities in the US will likely pass the personal jurisdiction test. That is about as far as it gets.

Ivor Windybottom · 2025-12-17T13:22:37+0000

Bluster, noise and attitude as normal.

Of course people go to prison for non-payment of the BBC fee. Lots of them are women, as their bully boys tend to pick on them as a weaker target. I'm not going to go and get evidence of the bleeding obvious for you.

Ivor Windybottom · 2025-12-17T13:26:40+0000

I haven't paid the licence fee for about 5 years. That's now somewhere approaching a grand that's in our bank instead of theirs.

All totally legal. Don't watch live TV or BBC. Not because of some great principle but because it's brain-dead trash. We stopped watching any of their drivel long before we stopped paying them.

But... I still get their threatening letters, which are utterly ridiculous. Fake rubber stamps with "Visit Authorised" and other stuff. I can laugh at them but they're designed to intimidate and scare the vulnerable - which obviously gets results in scaring people into handing money over, often whether or not they should pay it.

motorbiking · 2025-12-17T13:32:32+0000

Ivor Windybottom said:
I haven't paid the licence fee for about 5 years. That's now somewhere approaching a grand that's in our bank instead of theirs.

All totally legal. Don't watch live TV or BBC. Not because of some great principle but because it's brain-dead trash. We stopped watching any of their drivel long before we stopped paying them.

But... I still get their threatening letters, which are utterly ridiculous. Fake rubber stamps with "Visit Authorised" and other stuff. I can laugh at them but they're designed to intimidate and scare the vulnerable - which obviously gets results in scaring people into handing money over, often whether or not they should pay it.

I get them too, I miss dragons den, thats it.

Brigadier · 2025-12-17T13:34:18+0000

motorbiking said:
oh dear its seems neither of you understand what giving a mistaken impression means.

keep dreaming

What mistaken impression?

Notch7 · 2025-12-17T13:41:18+0000

fillyboy said:
"I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."

I mention of peace does not excuse the 500 mentions of fight

motorbiking · 2025-12-17T13:45:41+0000

Brigadier said:
What mistaken impression?

ask the BBC they admitted giving it. It's clear in the correction and apology.

Trump is suing the BBC for Ten Billion USD.

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