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Elsa TLC said:
Started off years back buy a package with your PC and that was it done and dusted.
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That's what I did, new desktop just over 2 years ago. I don't know whether I paid extra for the Microsoft suite, but I don't pay any annual fee.

Google Sheets and Docs for free are very similar.

I noticed XL does not have a COSEC function, but Sheets does (CSC). Not that it's a problem, use 1/SIN instead.
 
Ivor Windybottom said:
A PDF file is basically the digital equivalent of printing.

It's also very good for privacy reasons, if you send your original file of whatever type then it may contain things you don't want the recipient to see such as hidden text, details of things you previously deleted or calculations such as your profit margin embedded in your spreadsheet calculations behind the scenes.

Also they could edit it or use it as the basis of their documents, e.g. your customer could send your special spreadsheet that calculates all your project costs to your competitor, which they could make use of in future.

A PDF is just a representation of what would have been sent to the printer if you'd printed it. With absolutely no data about how it got generated.
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You can password protect your spreadsheets, etc, so only authorised persons can access hidden details, or modify the data.

Your customer can just as easily send your .pdf sheets to a competitor. Anyone in a similar trade will understand the calculations, etc., that comprise the totals.
 
King Billy said:
You can password protect your spreadsheets, etc, so only authorised persons can access hidden details, or modify the data.

Your customer can just as easily send your .pdf sheets to a competitor. Anyone in a similar trade will understand the calculations, etc., that comprise the totals.
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The sky is blue.

There you go, find something to disagree with about that.
 
Ivor Windybottom said:
The sky is blue.

There you go, find something to disagree with about that.
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It's not. :rolleyes:
It appears to be blue usually. But at times, it definitely does not appear to be blue.
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There is a free pdf app, Cute pdf printer that will convert documents to pdf format as if sending them to a printer. I find it useful.
 
Ivor Windybottom said:
Both were once useful, now Windows includes a PDF creator as standard. So you don't need to install unknown free third party software with a dubious business model that may include pop-up ads or scraping data from your documents.

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We're talking at cross purposes.
Printing something to a .pdf format, which is what the Windows built in app does, from the native software.

And converting and opening a received document in a non-.pdf format, e.g. word, to a .pdf format, if/when you don't have the software that the document was created in.

It makes sense for the sender to create the .pdf document if/when the recipient doesn't have the same native software.

But if the sender does not think to check, and sends the document in the original native software a converter is needed, if the recipient does not have that software.

If you want to send the document in the native software format, you can protect it, to prevent modification.
 
fillyboy said:
I used to use open office as I begrudged paying for something that was once free, however after emailing out invoices and estimates I found some people were unable to open them on their computers so I reverted to Microsoft.
Now I'm retired I would happily revert to open office.
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Final documents, i.e.those which the recipient should not be editing, should always be sent in PDF format, not in docx or odf format. Then you avoid the above problems and your clients are not required to have MS Office, or indeed any WP software at all. MS Word, OpenOffice and Libre Office can all export to PDF very easily.
 
Ivor Windybottom said:
Both were once useful, now Windows includes a PDF creator as standard. So you don't need to install unknown free third party software with a dubious business model that may include pop-up ads or scraping data from your documents.
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I know but I've got used to pdf995. For all I know Bill Gates might be collecting my data!
 
I switched to a cheaper plan after comparing options, because the price jumps can be a bit wild. If you ever get into Microsoft’s business tools, I found topdynamicspartners.com handy for figuring out which partners give straight answers on pricing before you commit. For Office at home, though, it’s worth checking if you’re on the full 6‑user plan by mistake or if a promo you had just expired.
 
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