Is it murder or man slaughter

imtiaz_ahmad said:

Manslaughter isn’t really a “halfway house” in the way people sometimes think. In UK law the difference usually comes down to intent and circumstances, not simply whether someone died.

With murder, the prosecution has to prove there was intent to kill or cause really serious harm.

Manslaughter covers situations where someone unlawfully caused a death but the legal test for murder isn’t fully met — for example loss of control, diminished responsibility, excessive self-defence, or situations where intent is less clear.

That’s why you sometimes see someone deny murder but admit manslaughter, or vice versa. A stabbing can still legally end up as manslaughter depending on what the jury believes was happening at the time.

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johnny2007 said:

One punch in 99% of cases doesn't kill.
When it does, usually (but not always) the test for murder is not met, i.e. intent to kill.

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blup said:

Punching someone hard in the head is likely to cause serious injury

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• extensive or severe bruising
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blup said:

Punching someone hard in the head is likely to cause serious injury

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imtiaz_ahmad said:

Manslaughter isn’t really a “halfway house” in the way people sometimes think. In UK law the difference usually comes down to intent and circumstances, not simply whether someone died.

With murder, the prosecution has to prove there was intent to kill or cause really serious harm.

Manslaughter covers situations where someone unlawfully caused a death but the legal test for murder isn’t fully met — for example loss of control, diminished responsibility, excessive self-defence, or situations where intent is less clear.

That’s why you sometimes see someone deny murder but admit manslaughter, or vice versa. A stabbing can still legally end up as manslaughter depending on what the jury believes was happening at the time.

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Dec27 said:

I think carrying an eight inch knife shows intent.

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mitch66 said:

TBH mate, for the average ruck, where the victims head lands is the decider.

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blup said:

Let him start with all the dodgy re form candidates who made it past vetting.

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Brigadier said:

The "finest upstanding hardworking" who he latterly states he "barely knew, and never met" ones, you mean?

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imtiaz_ahmad said:

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noseall said:

Good post.

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ReganAndCarter said:

Himmy has really upped his game on the usernames.

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mitch66 said:

TBH mate, for the average ruck, where the victims head lands is the decider.

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