Covid 19 report

blup · Tuesday at 2:20 PM

Latest report. Bit of a pic n mix

PPE failures left NHS staff poorly protected and wasted £10bn, Covid inquiry finds

Healthcare staff were unable to properly protect themselves, or those in their care, from dangerous infections, says the latest inquiry report.

www.bbc.co.uk

Dec27 · Tuesday at 2:32 PM

blup said:
Latest report. Bit of a pic n mix

PPE failures left NHS staff poorly protected and wasted £10bn, Covid inquiry finds

Healthcare staff were unable to properly protect themselves, or those in their care, from dangerous infections, says the latest inquiry report.

www.bbc.co.uk

Unprecedented times. The government did what they could, or thought was right at the time.

The going out promotion was a stupid idea though.

10 billion in wasted ppe….

SPLINE · Tuesday at 2:50 PM

Covid was a massive con. Most people believed it though.

danfre · Tuesday at 3:28 PM

So you believe no one died?

Ivor Windybottom · Tuesday at 3:50 PM

If you believe that someone died as a result of covid if they had a positive test then got run over by a bus then it was a great success. That is how the stats were fudged, in addition to including many who never had a test who may have died from anything that could possibly be related.

It was a massive, stupid over-reaction. Probably because those in charge knew (despite denying it) that it had been created in a US-funded lab so they feared the worst. It shouldn't have happened in the first place, but it was known from the outset that it was extremely unlikely to be worse than a bit of flu for anyone - i.e. an annoyance for anyone of working age and healthy, potentially a problem for older people and especially for those who like their chips and cakes too much so have already ruined their own health out of choice.

They should have isolated the elderly and vulnerable as well as possible, which would have been imperfect, as is a lockdown, and let everyone else carry on.

The mask thing was an utter joke, they can't keep a virus in any better than your pants can keep a fart in. Medical masks were designed to stop medical staff accidentally spitting into patients while operating, they were never designed for virus control.

danfre · Tuesday at 3:53 PM

Simple question did anyone die from covid

aveatry · Tuesday at 4:07 PM

Ivor Windybottom said:
If you believe that someone died as a result of covid if they had a positive test then got run over by a bus then it was a great success. That is how the stats were fudged, in addition to including many who never had a test who may have died from anything that could possibly be related.

It was a massive, stupid over-reaction. Probably because those in charge knew (despite denying it) that it had been created in a US-funded lab so they feared the worst. It shouldn't have happened in the first place, but it was known from the outset that it was extremely unlikely to be worse than a bit of flu for anyone - i.e. an annoyance for anyone of working age and healthy, potentially a problem for older people and especially for those who like their chips and cakes too much so have already ruined their own health out of choice.

They should have isolated the elderly and vulnerable as well as possible, which would have been imperfect, as is a lockdown, and let everyone else carry on.

Exactly

Ivor Windybottom said:
The mask thing was an utter joke, they can't keep a virus in any better than your pants can keep a fart in. Medical masks were designed to stop medical staff accidentally spitting into patients while operating, they were never designed for virus control.

The advice on masks was - not needed and that advice only changed when hospital masks were available again. Saying people could make their own out of an old pair of Y fronts was to coax people out of their homes and go and spend after they did such a good psych job on the public that frightened them to death in order to get them to "obey" the lockdowns.
Which also lead to starzi type neighbours reporting to the authorities that dave over the road had his girlfriend around --- when all the time the health minster was doing EXACTLY the same.
Meanwhile borris and the office staff were having parties with suitcases of booze being smuggled in - all at the same time as telling us we can not visit relatives for Christmas. Deaths being exaggerated - run over by a bus so long as you hade covid in the last few weeks - then you go on the list.
Then we have the vax that didnt stop you getting it and diddnt stop you spreadings it. Is it no wonder that people just reply with --- IT WAS A CON

Ivor Windybottom · Tuesday at 4:08 PM

danfre said:
Simple question did anyone die from covid

People die from flu every year. This may be shocking to you, but about 1% of the entire population dies every year!

A lot of those who died "with" it didn't die "from" it. Of those who actually died "from" it, many probably didn't have long left otherwise anyway.

Everyone dies one day, from something.

It's impossible to see the overall effect on our population, as the Boris Wave of immigration and beyond has created a massive spike in population.

danfre · Tuesday at 4:11 PM

So as a summary all the NHS staff who died from covid did not have long to live anyway

danfre · Tuesday at 4:13 PM

I agree that many aspects of how situation was dealt with was wrong, but hindsight is fantastic

Ivor Windybottom · Tuesday at 4:19 PM

danfre said:
So as a summary all the NHS staff who died from covid did not have long to live anyway

The numbers were nonsense.

They all got tested regularly, so anyone who happened to have caught it within the last 3 months, or had a falsely positive test, if they then died from anything it was counted as dying from covid.

People die all the time, the NHS employs stupid numbers of people so there will be many deaths every day, all the time. It's just numbers.

I'm sure there would have been an increase. The debate should be whether it was worth bankrupting the country and many people for, and causing lots of other deaths and suffering of all kinds as a result of the lockdown. Pros vs cons, not just idiotic questions about whether it was harmless or not - of course it was a health risk, everyone accepts that.

Ivor Windybottom · Tuesday at 4:20 PM

danfre said:
I agree that many aspects of how situation was dealt with was wrong, but hindsight is fantastic

It was absolutely known to be of insignificant consequence to anyone reasonably healthy under 50 from the outset.

IT Minion · Tuesday at 4:23 PM

Ivor Windybottom said:
If you believe that someone died as a result of covid if they had a positive test then got run over by a bus then it was a great success

If only someone has tried to work out how often this happened...

But you wouldn't believe the numbers anyway so it's academic, ironically.

IT Minion · Tuesday at 4:25 PM

Ivor Windybottom said:
It was absolutely known to be of insignificant consequence to anyone reasonably healthy under 50 from the outset.

Nope, it didn't kill large percentages but it hospitalised and killed a fair few under 50s. Hospitalisation was around 5% for first infections if unvaccinated.

Thats a lot.

aveatry · Tuesday at 4:26 PM

danfre said:
Simple question did anyone die from covid

Don't you remember that almost no one died of flu during that time - dont you find that odd. Flu deaths went down and was replaced by "covid"

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