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1st floor hallway regs help

Discussion in 'Building Regulations and Planning Permission' started by mordzy, 22 Aug 2020.

  1. mordzy

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    Hello. I’m in the midst of finishing off my self build but stumbled across an issue while talking to the staircase contractor.

    the hallway that adjoins the landing to a bedroom isn’t wide enough I don’t think. It measures 880mm I’m not sure if it should be 900 or 1200.

    1200 would cause me a real issue as I’d have to encroach into the stairwell opening a fair bit reducing the width of the steps.

    I thought about moving the entire bedroom wall (most expensive) or perhaps just the door but would mean the hall is redundant.

    I could make the door frame wider to allow for a the 900 hall way and bolt on a additional joist below the floor with a ‘strip’ of chipboard on the top.

    I presume a oversight from the builder while making stud walls has caused this.

    Would someone be able to clarify what the hallway width should be? Help with, or suggesting a solution would also be appreciated.

    I’ll try include a pic/sketch. At present the forum won’t allow me to upload off my phone.

    thanks in advance
     

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  3. Nakajo

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    What's the problem exactly? Wide enough for what?
     
  4. mordzy

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    Hi. Sorry. The problem is that I don’t think it meets with the regs. So wouldn’t pass building control/inspector sigh off
     
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    Which regulation?
     
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    Only from my own research online which I know is not gospel so thought I’d ask the experts here.

    the resource I found is here

    http://www.lifetimehomes.org.uk/pages/6-internal-doorways-and-hallways.html

    which states


    Doorway widths within dwellings
    Head on approach to door within dwelling

    The minimum clear opening width of any doorway within a dwelling, when the approach to the door is ‘head on’, is 750mm.

    Turning to pass through a door within dwelling

    When the approach to a doorway is not head on, and a turn is required to pass through the doorway, the minimum clear opening for that doorway will relate to the width of the approach (typically a hallway or landing), and should be in accordance with the table below:”

    Table on the link above. Table says I need a 1200 wide hallway to pass through a standard 750 wide door.
     
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    I notice your document uses the word "should" and not the word "must."

    This is usually a clue that tells you it is talking about advice or best practice rather than regulation.

    But I don't know the answer.
     
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    Thanks. Yes, most of the documents say should. My assumption is that this is documented for a reason as such that it must be observed in new builds and compromises made in such a case of an old building. However I want to make sure I’m doing it right do avoid costly changes down the road.
     
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    Do you have a Planning condition or any other condition that requires you to meet the Lifetime Homes standards?
     
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    Not that I’m aware of. It’s not something I’ve heard mentioned or recall. I’ve just used that site as a reference assuming it was a standard reg
     
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    You need to stop worrying
     
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    Haha. So is there not a minimum width then woody?
     
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    Are you building a lifetime home?
     
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    2ft 6" door plus 2x 70mm arcatraves set back say 9mm [160mm] so 765+160+4mm so 930mm give or take 100mm now if you have a right angle best to plus 100mm to allow clearance for furniture but not a requirement so 880 tight 1000mm better
     
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    To confirm. It’s not a requirement but best practice to be wider than currently is ?
     
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