35% of asylum seekers are gay.. or not

[King Billy]

Glad we agree that I am No1.

Clown. I just said that.

You're number 1 Clown?
OK, I'll accept your application.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

Of course. The average number of gay men in the population in 'free' countries is about 10% or young men and only 1% for older men.#
Sexuality has nothing to do with age, it's just how open people are prepared to be.
So obviously the older gay men are not open about it, just like the gay people in 'closed' societies.
In places like UK older gay men still fear discrimination. In other countries all gay men fear persecution, torture or death.
Homosexulity is like skin colour, one cannot change it.
As Eric said:

So if someone in danger of persecution, torture or death due to something thsat they can't change why deny them sanctuary?
Would you deny a black, brown or whatever colour of skin one might have, sanctuary, if they fear persecution, torture or death, due to their ethnicity?


Resort to the ridiculous.
No-one is suggesting they will all come here.


and suffer the persecution, torture or death?


Being gay is not an excuse for anything. It's just someone's sexuality.
If you are hetrosexual, can you stop being hetrosexual?

I decided to read one of your replies, I thought it would be a response to my previous comment.

In reality it's a load of preachy statement of the bleeding obvious, strawman arguments, pushing open doors and preaching to the choir. You seem to be under the deluded impression that anyone disagreeing with any of your pontificating must disagree with all common sense and fit some sort of cartoon character caricature of what you think a non-lefty believes.

I haven't said anyone should stop doing anything. Just that they shouldn't be able to use it as an excuse to move here. Otherwise we'll encourage many more to do the same. Also we're encouraging intolerant governments to persecute their own people, by taking away their people that they see as a problem.

They should use their gym-toned muscles and chatting abilities to change their own countries.

 

[King Billy]

I haven't said anyone should stop doing anything.

Memory problems?

We don't need to ban gays from entering, just stop accepting at as an excuse.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

Pathetic. Are you pretending to misunderstand or does it come naturally to you?

I'm talking about stopping them entering the country, not from entering each other!

But most don't want that anyway, as they're obviously not gay and are just using it as a convenient excuse to move here, as nobody can disprove it.

We shouldn't have any asylum reasons that can't be proved with facts.

 

[noseall]

Memory problems?

Would you remember every lie you told every day, if virtually every post you made was made up on the spot?

 

[King Billy]

Pathetic. Are you pretending to misunderstand or does it come naturally to you?

I'm talking about stopping them entering the country, not from entering each other!

But most don't want that anyway, as they're obviously not gay and are just using it as a convenient excuse to move here, as nobody can disprove it.

We shouldn't have any asylum reasons that can't be proved with facts.

So it's not memory problems you're having, it's comprehension problems. You don't understand what you said.

We don't need to ban gays from entering, just stop accepting at as an excuse. Probably along with a number of other flakey unprovable excuses, e.g. not liking the chicken nuggets there.

I haven't said anyone should stop doing anything.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

So it's not memory problems you're having, it's comprehension problems. You don't understand what you said.

You don't understand English. You'd better get one of those evening classes.

I can't work out whether you're just pretending to be slow or actually believe what you write.

 

[King Billy]

I can't work out whether you're just pretending to be slow or actually believe what you write.

You are comical Ivor.
I believe what you write has not passed the "is this ridiculous" test.
In your case none of what you write is subjected to such a test., because it's all ridiculous.

...I haven't said anyone should stop doing anything. ...

...just stop...

I'm talking about stopping them ...

 

[motorbiking]

There's no requirement for an asylum seeker to seek asylum in the first country of arrival.

No obligation to process their claim if they didn’t.

 

[motorbiking]

Would you remember every lie you told every day, if virtually every post you made was made up on the spot?

You could always stop telling them.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

You are comical Ivor.
I believe what you write has not passed the "is this ridiculous" test.
In your case none of what you write is subjected to such a test., because it's all ridiculous.

Oh right, you're not pretending, it's actually genuine.

Then there's no point in trying to help you understand.

 

[King Billy]

No obligation to process their claim if they didn’t.

That's the claim but it's not enforceable.
If the country of first arrival is not safe, the policy cannot be enforced.
If the country of first arrival refuses to accept the returned asylum seeker, the policy cannot be enforced.
if the country of first arrival is unlikely to grant asylum, the policy cannot be enforced.

So the UK domestic policy is reliant on the cooperation of other countries, to enforce.

 

[Highway Man]

That's the claim but it's not enforceable.
If the country of first arrival is not safe, the policy cannot be enforced.
If the country of first arrival refuses to accept the returned asylum seeker, the policy cannot be enforced.
if the country of first arrival is unlikely to grant asylum, the policy cannot be enforced.

So the UK domestic policy is reliant on the cooperation of other countries, to enforce.

Passing through lots of safe countries in order to gain entry to the UK is as see through as you are.

 

[King Billy]

Oh right, you're not pretending, it's actually genuine.

Then there's no point in trying to help you understand.

Help begins at home, Ivor.
Help yourself to understand what you write.
Until you can do that you've no chance of explaining anything to anyone.

Here's a book to help you:

How to Improve Your Reading Comprehension Skills for the ASVAB​

How to Improve Your Reading Comprehension Skills for the ASVAB | dummies

www.dummies.com

Fortunately for some the British Army's test doesn't pass or fail recruits, it measures their suitability for roles.

 

[King Billy]

Passing through lots of safe countries in order to gain entry to the UK is as see through as you are.

There's a difference between being invisible and being virtual.
I'll leave you to work out which is which.

BTW, I see you've edited your 'sex is different to gender' comment. It was as bad as Ivor's "I'm not saying stop, but just stop".
Good job I screenshot your original innit?