A waste of life

[morqthana]

At the same time I have a friend who has two daughters 18 and 20 and neither have any desire to work. Both expect their dad and boyfriends to fund their Waitrose lifestyle.

All those who say "we should go back to doing things the way we did in [insert decade(s) of choice], before we [insert disliked change(s)]" should pause and think - those young women are just seeking to turn the clock back 40-50 years.

 

[morqthana]

I'm just hoping there's still a state pension when I need it in about 7 years time.

I'm sure there will be, but it will be smaller.

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[morqthana]

It isn't who I think should be doing them, my thoughts are when I see young people who are starting out in their working life being forced into working in these type of jobs because there isn't any alternative for them. If that is what they choose to do that is fine but I suspect many are doing it in order to simply have a job after many years of study and trying to better themselves to end up doing a job that isn't what they envisaged themselves doing.

All true.

But somebody has to do those jobs.

 

[Diver Fred]

Even with only a handful of O Levels I walked into a reasonable job. May seem like there's jobs out there now, but there's a higher percentage of low skill, service industry jobs. Good jobs with prospects and liveable wage are dwindling and competition for the few that exist is fierce.

I did similar, after 2 carp apprenticeships my third gave me a career. Took me 35 years to get a professional registration, not a particularly high one, but even so I had to work for it.
But I was never out of work from the age of 14 - petrol pump jockey; 1s 6d per hour (earned more as tips - checking oil and tyres, washing windscreens, lights and mirrors). First apprenticeship I was paid 35% of a skilled mans wage - today that rate is a lot closer to a skilled mans wage.

 

[morqthana]

The EU ones were actually positive for The UK. The unskilled, backwards third worlders we're getting now will forever be a liability unless they're booted out.

The latter are not the ones doing the jobs which Highway Man, for example, is concerned that young graduates or school leavers cannot get any more.

 

[diy_fun_uk]

I agree that nobody is entitled to expect a decent job but when you have studied for what might have been a dream of doing a particular job to find out that particular field is now out of reach must be devastating.

Agreed. I'm not referring so much to the emotional side, just the practicalities and reality of it all.

It will become even more difficult to navigate due to AI. e.g. someone is entering into 3,4,5 years of study in a particular field. However another question in the mix is 'to what extent if any will AI be doing the stuff I'm studying for a career in?'

 

[Elsa TLC]

Young people have done menial, seasonal and part time work, since young people were invented.

Yes and in this case will be able to eat as much Ice-cream as they want.