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[Brigadier]

It's the genre, not the colour of skin of performer that is honoured.

No - it is the performer who is honoured (that is how Joss Stone, if memory serves), managed to "win" a MOBO award.

She wouldn't have been nominated if she'd performed some classical music.
Being a soul singer, it's hardly likely that she would have been singing some classical number.

"She wouldn't have been nominated if..........."

She.

You've torpedo'ed your own statement, right there.


"MOBO Award winner, Joss Stone!", not


"MOBO Award winner, some more music of black origin! (performed by some Cornish bird who's name is of no consequence". I don't recall hearing anything like that.


Here - have some rolly eyes

Sorry Brigadier, your message is too obscure to understand. Must be that Christmas spirit that you've started already.

If you're suggesting that she was nominated as some token representative, you're way off the mark. It's the genre of her music that decides whether she is elligible or not, not the colour of her skin.

If you're suggesting that she was nominated, not her music, well someone has to perform it, it doesn't perform itself. Some artists perfom music better than others. Therefore someone wins, and their skin colour is immaterial. Simple init?

Stop with the rolly eyes - you're only embarrassing yourself, with your inability to comprehend what is written.

Joss Stone won.
The music, did not.

You really are so desperate, that you're clinging to the fact that Joss Stone is "not black". Well, whoopy-do.

Insert any winners name in there that you fancy. It is the person that wins the award, NOT the genre - that is just the ticket that gets them entry to the show.

 

[longdogs]

OK, so I'm gonna sit on the fence here and I'm setting light to my nether regions agreeing with the reindeer etc, but I do not find the MOBO''s racist.
In fact, if it weren't for the Blues, perhaps artists such as Clapton, The Beatles, Rolling Stones etc would never have come to fruition.
What I do object to is, as stated previously, The Black Policeman Association etc. It would be deemed racist if it were White only Policeman etc.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origins_of_the_blues[/QUOTE]

Thanks gasman for a genuine reply. You obviously hold a slightly different opinion to me but because your reply is written in an intelligent, decent way, it makes me consider your point of view, unlike posts from the waffle twins.

 

[RNReindeer]

Joss Stone won.
The music, did not.

Insert any winners name in there that you fancy. It is the person that wins the award, NOT the genre - that is just the ticket that gets them entry to the show.

You're nearly there.

Joss Stone and her music was nominated.
It was her music that got her the ticket!
Just for you.

 

[RNReindeer]

Anyway. Forget the hysterics and demonstrate to me what parts of my post you don't completely understand, and which parts you think are untrue.

What ALL of them!

OMG, we'll be here until well after Christmas, just on the bits that are untrue.

 

[RNReindeer]

You really are so desperate, that you're clinging to the fact that Joss Stone is "not black". Well, whoopy-do.

You were the one that introduced her name into the discussion. Or had you forgotten?
I wasn't aware of her skin colour and thought it was not important anyway.

 

[RNReindeer]

The sad thing is that prejudice isn't heriditary, but it is taught at a vey early age by the parents. So, one could say that about the posters who are prejudiced, that it's not their fault. They've been socialised into that psyche from a very early age in their family upbringing.

I'm glad that you lefties admit this, because indoctrinating the young with lefty clap trap is all part of your plan. Catch them young, ideally dressing it up as education, you can prevent then from thinking for themselves and forming their own opinions and natural conclusions. Because, 9 times out of ten, the conclusions will inevitably be what the 'lefty who know what's best for us' brigade won't want or like. The tyranny of multiculturalism can be implanted into young malleable minds, so that they almost celebrate the fact that their country has been given away and trashed for ever. They can also be primed to shout down anyone who dares question this with the 'R' word. Perish the thought that their parents may know better, because their parents will know how things were, and what has been lost.

As for being prejudiced, it's just natural human nature to be discerning about invasions of your territory, especially by less advanced, more aggressive and culturally inferior peoples. You lefty, diversity-peddlers dress this up by lying that it brings advantages to the host population. However, you can never say convincingly what these 'advantages' actually are. You just try to close the arguments down with the same tired, predictable words.

Do you ever doubt that you may be wrong?
I have and always continue to re-assess my beliefs.
I was reading a book a little while ago. A book of fiction (C J Sansom's new one: Lamentation), but sometimes fiction writers come out with some superb observations.
Allow me to reproduce the passage here:
"I have been prey to doubt all my life," he said seriously. "For a time, as once I told you, I doubted God's existence. But I believed that if faith and doubt battle together within a human soul, that soul becomes the stronger and more honest for it."
"Perhaps. Though I have far more doubt than faith these days." I hesitated. "You know, I have always considered that people who were unshakeable in their faith, on either side, to be the most dangerous sort of men. But just recently I wonder whether that is wrong, and rather it is those , like some of the highest at court - Wriothesley, or Rich - who shift from one side to the other to further their ambitions, who are truly the worst men.'

Perhaps you'd do well to welcome some doubt in your own views occasionally.

 

[JBR]

I see we've all fallen into the trap again.

He argues that black is white (perhaps not the best choice of words for this thread, but hey ho) just for the sake of argument and with a desire to draw others into supporting his little pastime.

I'm bowing out now. I'm bored with him.

 

[RNReindeer]

I see we've all fallen into the trap again.

He argues that black is white (perhaps not the best choice of words for this thread, but hey ho) just for the sake of argument and with a desire to draw others into supporting his little pastime.

If you've nothing useful to say, best to say nothing.

 

[longdogs]

I wasn't aware of her skin colour and thought it was not important anyway.

Correct!

 

[AronSearle]

Rougehamster will try to win any argument by simply making everyone else quit from boredom.

 

[RNReindeer]

Rougehamster will try to win any argument by simply making everyone else quit from boredom.

You've nothing to add to the topic, I see. So you attack the person.
Apart from that, the tactic that you're suggesting that I utilise, obviously doesn't work, because so many are still contributing, including yourself, albeit, of little substance.
So I would be wasting my time to use that tactic, don't you think?

 

[jeds]

What is the point of this ridiculous thread.

 

[RNReindeer]

Believe it or not. It was a discussion about whether the term African-American was acceptable, which evoloved into whether the MOBO awards were racist, or not.
As usual it's deteriorated into something vaguely familiar.

 

[AronSearle]

Rouge hamster is our resident social justice poster.

 

[RNReindeer]

Rouge hamster is our resident social justice poster.

Hmm, interesting.

They are free (to)sic act like asses.

You can only ask nicely or act like asses in return.

Let's see if your approach works.
Please stop making spiteful disparaging remarks about me.