Air central heating?

[stem]

When the house is designed for it they are not expensive to install. As I said "Give me a twin duct forced air heat recovery and ventilation system any day. Beats the hell out of radiators."

I think you're missing the point. This is not an argument about the merits of wet & dry heating systems. I agree the new systems with heat recovery and fresh air systems are much improved. But the OP was asking about an existing system in a property they are considering living in and I think the possibilities of it being a twin duct forced air heat recovery and ventilation system are very slim.

 

[BigBurner]

When the house is designed for it they are not expensive to install. As I said "Give me a twin duct forced air heat recovery and ventilation system any day. Beats the hell out of radiators."

I think you're missing the point. This is not an argument about the merits of wet & dry heating systems. I agree the new systems with heat recovery and fresh air systems are much improved. But the OP was asking about an existing system in a property they are considering living in and I think the possibilities of it being a twin duct forced air heat recovery and ventilation system are very slim.

I agree. But it doesn't mean its a dog. And it doesn't mean it can't be improved either.

The largest negative point about forced air heating is just plain ignorance about it. Domestic heating people tend to be plumbers whose specialty is drains, not heating, that is why they rip these air units out and fit pipes with water in them.

 

[clf-gas]

Agree with your last comment BB, though I think joe puplic is less knowledgeable about the benefits of warm air.

Had a customer the week before christmas, had warm air with a two years old J&S unit. No matter how hard I tried he would not budge on not having wet central heating installed. reluctantly I did it for him though I charged the earth, turned out his parents lived next door and had same unit so gave them all parts as spares.

On collecting payment in the new year he told me he agreed with my comments on pro's and con's with wet and warm air, It was just that his wife wanted rads for drying clothes

Warm air for me, but dont see that many anymore so wont renew ticket this year

 

[BigBurner]

Agree with your last comment BB, though I think joe puplic is less knowledgeable about the benefits of warm air.

In upmarket homes when heat recovery and vent is used they are a selling point. Joe public only experienced the cheapo crap mass estate systems.

Saying that I know of one private estate near Croydon fitted with warm air in 1975. Most love it. It was reasonably well designed (not even two duct, but did have fresh air intake). Many have new uprated modulating J&S units and see a massive difference in comfort, economy and silence. They like the cooling aspect in summer too. I believe only about 2 or so over 30 years have put in rads and they regretted it.

I recall one complainer who was about to rip an air system out because it was too noisy. It told him to soundproof the cupboard and its door. He did to little cost and you could not hear it. How many have ripped them out because of this I don't know, but many have.

I new J&S unit and a soundproofed cupboard makes all the difference.

Had a customer the week before christmas, had warm air with a two years old J&S unit. No matter how hard I tried he would not budge on not having wet central heating installed. reluctantly I did it for him though I charged the earth, turned out his parents lived next door and had same unit so gave them all parts as spares.

On collecting payment in the new year he told me he agreed with my comments on pro's and con's with wet and warm air, It was just that his wife wanted rads for drying clothes

In fact warm air is superior for drying clothes. An airing cupboard with a warm air grill is superb.

It appears too many stupid people have lots of money.

Warm air for me, but dont see that many anymore so wont renew ticket this year

You have to specialise in it these days with offering the full heat recovery and vent installation and support.

 

[Nixt]

It appears too many stupid people have lots of money.

They might argue it beats being clever and skint.

 

[BigBurner]

It appears too many stupid people have lots of money.

They might argue it beats being clever and skint.

I would rather be clever and skint.

 

[Nixt]

I would rather be clever and skint.

Fair enough, all you need to do now then is to learn to be clever.

 

[Coniferman]

I have had warm air most of my life and I like it. Quick to heat up. Very economical, reliable and cheap to service in my experience. I had one place with radiators (probably badly maintained) which I found noisy (gurgling/hissing pipes/radiators) and unreliable. Plus you don't lose the wall space of radiators.

After all isn't most of America and Canada forced air!?

 

[Nixt]

After all isn't most of America and Canada forced air!?

Are you referring to heating systems or their politicians?

 

[BigBurner]

IAfter all isn't most of America and Canada forced air!?

Yes. With regulations tightening and houses being air tested with high insulation values, heat recovery and vent will be the norm as it is necessary. This uses ducting. Having heat or cool outside air running though these air ducts makes lots of sense.

I see forced air becoming the norm in the UK as house designs change.

 

[BigBurner]

I would rather be clever and skint.

Fair enough, all you need to do now then is to learn to be clever.

If you can't add to a thread and keep on topic, then please do not post at all. All your post have been a waste of time and space.

 

[Nixt]

If you can't add to a thread and keep on topic, then please do not post at all. All your post have been a waste of time and space.

Then don't encourage it by making your own 'off topic' generalisations about people with money or plumbers abilities, just because you've amounted to f/all.

 

[BigBurner]

Then

You are still not adding anything to the thread . Please desist in this child behavior. My last on this luncy.

 

[Marshallman]

Watch out for asbestos - the warm air cupboards of thousands of new builds in the 70's were lined with asbestos insulating boards and due to the cost of removal most of them are still present - I've worked in countless homes on asbestos removal projects. It'll set you back a few quid to have the asbestos removed not to mention the cupboard rebuilt and the possible installation of conventional central heating if the ductwork for the warm air system has to be cut out to facilitate the asbestos removal. If in doubt get it checked out....

 

[BigBurner]

Watch out for asbestos - the warm air cupboards of thousands of new builds in the 70's were lined with asbestos insulating boards and due to the cost of removal most of them are still present - I've worked in countless homes on asbestos removal projects. It'll set you back a few quid to have the asbestos removed not to mention the cupboard rebuilt and the possible installation of conventional central heating if the ductwork for the warm air system has to be cut out to facilitate the asbestos removal. If in doubt get it checked out....

Excellent point. Putting soundproof materials over the asbestos will not cause any harm if the warm is retained. I would paint it with gloss paint first.