another child abuse gang caught and locked up for life

[noseall]

There were 105'000 CSA offences recorded by the police in 2022/23. 17'801 of those offences were for rape. *88% of those offences (92'400) were carried out by white British men. (*up to 91%)

Almost 80'000 of those offences did not end up in court for varying reasons i.e. 'evidential difficulties' or 'prosecution prevented or not in the public interest' or 'out of court resolution'.

1619 of those did end up with the offender being locked up, 482 of those for rape. What is your point?

This is, was and always will be a lie...

It is not white British males committing the majority of rape abuse against kids, via rape gangs.

 

[Mottie]

Almost 80'000 of those offences did not end up in court …..

So, not guilty then or do you think anyone charged with an offence is automatically guilty?

 

[noseall]

So, not guilty then or do you think anyone charged with an offence is automatically guilty?

A few examples why it does not get to court....

A named suspect is identified but the victim does not support (or has withdrawn support from) police action.

The crime is confirmed but the victim declines or is unable to support further police action to identify the offender.

The crime is confirmed and the victim supports police action but evidential difficulties prevent further action.

A named suspect is identified but is dead.

A named suspect is identified but is too ill (physical or mental health) to prosecute.

 

[Mottie]

A few examples why it does not get to court....

A named suspect is identified but the victim does not support (or has withdrawn support from) police action.

The crime is confirmed but the victim declines or is unable to support further police action to identify the offender.

The crime is confirmed and the victim supports police action but evidential difficulties prevent further action.

A named suspect is identified but is dead.

A named suspect is identified but is too ill (physical or mental health) to prosecute.

You missed out the main one: The suspect was Asian and they didn’t want to upset the Asian community.

 

[motorbiking]

So Noseall is absolutely, positively certain that my statement is false, without any idea how many there are or how many are white British males.

There were 105'000 CSA offences recorded by the police in 2022/23. 17'801 of those offences were for rape. *88% of those offences (92'400) were carried out by white British men. (*up to 91%)

Almost 80'000 of those offences did not end up in court for varying reasons i.e. 'evidential difficulties' or 'prosecution prevented or not in the public interest' or 'out of court resolution'.

1619 of those did end up with the offender being locked up, 482 of those for rape. What is your point?

This is, was and always will be a lie...

It is not white British males committing the majority of rape abuse against kids, via rape gangs.

No, your numbers are still incorrect.

A few examples....
A named suspect is identified but the victim does not support (or has withdrawn support from) police action.

The crime is confirmed but the victim declines or is unable to support further police action to identify the offender.

The crime is confirmed and the victim supports police action but evidential difficulties prevent further action.

A named suspect is identified but the victim does not support (or has withdrawn support from) police action.

A named suspect is identified but is dead.

A named suspect is identified but is too ill (physical or mental health) to prosecute.

I'm hoping you will eventually work that the vast majority of CSA/CSE offences detailed in the numbers you keep incorrectly citing, have nothing to do with adult men raping and trafficking kids. Why do you think just 11% proceed to summons/Trial? Why do you think a prosecution for rape is not in the public interest or that it is acceptable to offer a caution or out of court disposal? Remember the kind of rape that occurs when adult men traffic and rape children, carries a minimum 10 years in prison. (cat 2A).

No clue? What a surprise.

 

[noseall]

You missed out the main one: The suspect was Asian and they didn’t want to upset the Asian community.

That was not in the report section I read, no. And since the report focusses on year 2022/23 I'd say that was highly relevant, given that since 2021 major changes in the way that CSA/CSE is recorded, reported and data gathered.

 

[motorbiking]

Here is another question for you:

Black Asian & Minority Ethnic (BAME) men are over represented in Prison for Sex offences.

True or False?

 

[noseall]

So Noseall is absolutely, positively certain that my statement is false, without any idea how many there are or how many are white British males.

The amount of white British males actually jailed for rape is irrelevant to this yes...

It is not white British males committing the majority of rape abuse against kids, via rape gangs. There are plenty of official reports confirming this and I have posted them for the forum idiots to appraise themselves of.

...because it is a lie. And mainly because those jailed (482) and the rapes recorded (17'801) don't affect the fact that 88% of those rapes (15'600+) were carried out by white British men.

No, your numbers are still incorrect.

They are not my numbers. And they are perfectly correct, thanks.

I'm hoping you will eventually work that the vast majority of CSA/CSE offences detailed in the numbers you keep incorrectly citing, have nothing to do with adult men raping and trafficking kids.

Nonsense.

Why do you think just 11% proceed to summons/Trial? Why do you think a prosecution for rape is not in the public interest or that it is acceptable to offer a caution or out of court disposal? Remember the kind of rape that occurs when adult men traffic and rape children, carries a minimum 10 years in prison. (cat 2A).

Irrelevant.

 

[noseall]

So Noseall is absolutely, positively certain that my statement is false,

Yes, this is still a lie...

It is not white British males committing the majority of rape abuse against kids, via rape gangs. There are plenty of official reports confirming this and I have posted them for the forum idiots to appraise themselves of.


Incidentally, I posted the number of those jailed for child rape (482). How is this relevant to your argument?

 

[motorbiking]

482 is incorrect. you'll get a bonus point if you can show your working.

The only thing irrelevant is the data you are trying to understand and the nonsense you keep claiming it tells you.

Here is another question for you:

Black Asian & Minority Ethnic (BAME) men are over represented in Prison for Sex offences.

True or False?

Don't know?.. what a surprise.

 

[noseall]

Why do you think just 11% proceed to summons/Trial? Why do you think a prosecution for rape is not in the public interest or that it is acceptable to offer a caution or out of court disposal? .

Why do I think? Not me boyo..

A named suspect is identified but the victim does not support (or has withdrawn support from) police action.

The crime is confirmed but the victim declines or is unable to support further police action to identify the offender.

The crime is confirmed and the victim supports police action but evidential difficulties prevent further action.

A named suspect is identified but is dead.

A named suspect is identified but is too ill (physical or mental health) to prosecute.

Keep squirming. Keep lying.

 

[noseall]

482 is incorrect.

That's the number in the report. Regardless, what is your point?

 

[motorbiking]

Why do I think? Not me boyo..

A named suspect is identified but the victim does not support (or has withdrawn support from) police action.

The crime is confirmed but the victim declines or is unable to support further police action to identify the offender.

The crime is confirmed and the victim supports police action but evidential difficulties prevent further action.

A named suspect is identified but is dead.

A named suspect is identified but is too ill (physical or mental health) to prosecute.

Keep squirming. Keep lying.

But adult men trafficking and raping children is a category 2A offence, carrying a minimum 10 years in jail.

Have you unearthed a major failing on the part of the justice system? Are plod and the CPS letting child rapists off with a caution or community service by mistake? Perhaps it's because of White privilege? Or is it that these offences are largely nothing to do with the kind of rape that we've been discussing for 100s of pages?

I think we know the answer.

 

[noseall]

But adult men trafficking and raping children is a category 2A offence, carrying a minimum 10 years in jail.

Have you unearthed a major failing on the part of the justice system? Or is it that these offences are largely nothing to do with the kind of rape that we've been discussing for 100s of pages?

I think we know the answer.

More irrelevance.

Here are the FACTS:


There were 105'000 CSA offences recorded by the police in 2022/23. 17'801 of those offences were for rape. *88% of those offences (92'400) were carried out by white British men. (*up to 91%)

Almost 80'000 of those offences did not end up in court for varying reasons i.e. 'evidential difficulties' or 'prosecution prevented or not in the public interest' or 'out of court resolution'.

1619 of those did end up with the offender being locked up, 482 of those for rape. What is your point?

This is, was and always will be a lie...

It is not white British males committing the majority of rape abuse against kids, via rape gangs.

 

[noseall]

482 is incorrect.

Regardless. What is your point?