another texecom oddysey on 9600

[9600alarm]

hi guys having understood about panel ambient temperature the panel is in a cupboard under the stairs which is pretty cool, anyway i am thinking of installing another odyssey 3 at the back of the house obvously set it to scb and the current draw from the sounder would be 58 ma as my total load in alarm is 812ma should i go ahead and fit this to the panel output capacity is 1250ma.

if you had the exact same load as me would you fit this additional sounder without hesitatation seeing as its a 9600.

ps i understand its an old panel but its easier to program for me and has a very loud internal siren speaker output. cheers

 

[9600alarm]

is that cool as long as the temperature surrounding the panel isnt 40c which it isnt so the panel can provide its full 1250ma? so if i wanted to i could add another 400ma of equipment if i wanted to before the panel overloads

ps i doubt my cupboard is 40c lol

 

[9600alarm]

ignore this

 

[Lectrician]

It's an old panel, not one uses them these days, so everyone here would likely need to consult the manual.......which you can do too.

Just because you received no answer to a post doesn't mean people wont answer.

You posted three times in a short space of time - give people a chance! Most work during the day, earning money and charging people for a service.......that you seem to assume they must give you here for free as soon as you post!

WAIT for a friggin response!

 

[9600alarm]

okay this is what it says on the manual the control panel output is 1250ma if the ambient temperature is 20c or 800ma if 40c. connected to my panel is 2 keypads so 90ma 4 motion detectors so 54 ma texecom oddysey 3 on sab 523ma and a internal speaker which is probably 100ma or so. i plan to install another odyssey 3 a the back and put it on scb mode so that will add another 58ma to my total load can i safely do this without overloading the panel in alarm. the alarm panel is in a cupboard under the stair and has fair ventalilation of cold air. my total load currently is 812ma and will soon be 860ma when i install the additional sounder will the panel be able to cope with this load seeing as its in a cupboard with good ventilation?

the voltage on the panel is 13.6vdc if that helps thank you

 

[Lectrician]

I am sure it will be fine. Your ambient temperature is not going to be above 20 ish that often. Depends on your heating, and the weather. Measure it!

It's not going to get to 40 in reality. There woud bea sliding scale between 20 and 40, it wouldn't just go from 1200 odd mA to 800 odd mA at the click of a finger.

 

[9600alarm]

thank you very much i feel a bit stupid now sorry for being a pest

 

[9600alarm]

hi lectrician and everyone i just thought i would give you an update my second sounder arrived today and i added to the system and guess what it worked the entire system worked in alarm even the speaker and strobe and sounder front and back the front sounder was louder as it was on sab. even the 1 amp fuse never blown so that must mean the load is safe on this panel seeing as it can supply over an amp.

my alarm has 7 zones currently if added a expader on the system and put in another 5 pir detectors which draws 100ma in total so 960ma in reality it would probably be less than this but if it was 960ma would this old girl still be okay in alarm? many thanks

 

[Europlex]

Let's stop all your worries here, fit a PSU (power supply unit) to your system and split the detectors between that and the panel, no problems then.

Even scope for expansion at a later date.

 

[9600alarm]

hi europlex so i would mount the psu next to the panel then fit the expander card in the panel and wire the zones then take the positive and negative and connect these to the power supply

 

[Europlex]

Whether the expander will fit in the box, I'm afraid I don't know.

The PSU was only a suggestion as you seem to be very worried by the mA required.

Forget all that side of it and just do as I suggest, all possible power problems will go away.

Don't forget, 7Ah batts. in panel and PSU.

 

[9600alarm]

hi europlex im sorry if i wasnt clear i meant the 9600 4 zone expander card that you plug into the main pcb. i was worried before about the panel load but that was before i fitted the additional odyssey and it all worked without any bangs so that made it clear to me that the panel can supply more than my total load which is now 860ma also the main 1 amp fuse didnt blow and the panel can supply over 1 amp so if i added another 100ma it should still be okay during alarm mode?

the temperature surrounding the panel is no more than 20c and on the manual its says the panel can support 1250ma if the temperature is around 20c so i must be okay? if not iam more than happy to fit a power supply

 

[9600alarm]

hi there as my alarm can supply over an amp and works like i mentioned, if the worst ever came to the worst i would probably put both bell boxes on a 2 amp power supply but how would i go about wiring this i can just understand how to wire 1 but i am not sure about how to wire both bellboxes on the power supply due to the tamper arrangement cheers

or is there no need for seeing as the panel can support over an amp

 

[EightyTwo]

To fit an additional PSU (like the Elmdene 1381N or 1382N), mount the PSU near the panel, making sure that you can open the lid. You can connect the mains from the same FCU if you like but best practice would be to fit another. Run a bit of six core cable between the PSU and the panel. Twist and strip the red and yellow cores together at each end and do the same with the black and blue. This doubles the conductor size and you can use the red/yellow for +ve and the black/blue for -ve. Connect the green and white to the tamper switch in the PSU.

In the panel, use a choc block to connect the + and - from the PSU to the supply to all the PIRs - this replaces the AUX output. Also, MAKE A LINK FROM THE PSU -VE TO THE AUX -VE. This is called 'referencing' and it is very important. Do not do it with the +ve!. Now split the panel's tamper switch cable and cut one of the conductors. Connect the green and white from the PSU's tamper switch in the gap (with another 2-pole choc block). This means that the two tamper switches will be connected in series.

I'd leave the bell and speakers powered by the panel. As Europlex says, don't forget a battery for the PSU as well as the panel.

 

[9600alarm]

okay thanks very much, so use the power supply for the detectors and leave the speaker and bells on the panel will do thanks

what is the need for the negative linking why is this important?

forgive me for asking this but would the 9600 panel be fine with 960ma in alarm seeing as its powe output capacity is 1250 milliamps? if not i will fit the power supply as you suggested. many thanks