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Anyone recognise this rawl plug, sent with vertical rad?

Discussion in 'Plumbing and Central Heating' started by Sard, 12 Sep 2020.

  1. Sard

    Sard

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    Hi,

    I just received some vertical radiators from bestheating.com and the brackets came with this rawl plug but unfortunately no instructions. I've never seen it before and I'm wondering if I'm supposed to just squeeze the fins into the hole? It looks like a tough fit in my opinion. 3 out 4 rads will be mounted onto a drylined breeze block wall.

    Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.
     

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  3. Ian H

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    I would personally bin them and use a fixing of your choice.
     
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    +1 for the above. The orange ones are dog poo
     
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    Always, ALWAYS, throw away the plugs that come with anything.
    I don't know where the hell they get them from, but they're rubbish, all of them.
    Why do they even bother to put them in there?
    And don't get me started on screws...
     
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    Small rad, just use umbrella type expanding fixings
     
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    Part of the dustbin pack supplied with every radiator, along with the screws.

    In my experience, vertical rads from Bestheating and drylined walls do not mix well. The brackets are tiny and the rads are heavy, so they tend to put too much force on the board and push through when the rad is filled with water. Best to cut out behind where each bracket is going, fix some ply to the block, then screw through the lot to hang the rad.
     
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    If its a dot and dab wall with blocks behind the board .......I always do this........Mark your fixing centres carefully drill through deep in to the blocks maybe three inches deep. Put your plug on the end of a long screw hammer it home and unscrew it. Do the same again in the same hole so there's two plugs in each hole. Use long scew to carry whatever you need to hang. All you need to be carefull of is not over tightening so you don't pull the board back and damage it .....judicious tightening is needed !

    Hung all sorts this way Inc some very heavy rads never had a problem.
     
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    usually theres 2 holes per little bracket close together ,which just makes the whole thing worse, ruins the board and sometimes the block or brick behind.
    I use 6x85 sleeve anchors . 1 per bracket. stops the bracket wrecking the board.
     
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    I really wish I knew what to use as wall fixings, I have over the years picked up the selection boxes 20200913_095925.jpg 20200913_100037.jpg but they don't give a weight, so even a simple ceiling rose should take 5 kg, other than one with a hook Ceiling rose.jpg think unlikely to hang that weight, but it is not the plug that matters it is the plaster board, so no wall plug will have a weight limit marked on it. And I know my mother with a bad hip would lean on anything handy, so a radiator has to stand a lot of abuse weight wise. Never used any of the wall fixings with the pliers, I would assume as strong as the plaster board once fitted? But if you get a slight leak, how strong is plaster board? I would likely trust the ones using pliers, but the type which screw into plaster board as so dependent on having matching screw, and all well and good using a bracket to stop a tall cupboard tipping over, when weight is on floor, but weight of a radiator is rather a lot to ask.
     
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    Just my luck that the corefix screws are too small for the holes in the radiator brackets. I'm assuming I can just stick a washer on? Larger screw heads won't fit the plug.
     
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    quick update...

    I actually found the corefix screws really hard to work with. I drilled 10mm holes with the correct masonry bit but in 4 out of 5 attempts, the rawl plug wouldnt bite and the screws ended up spinning freely. I can accept one attempt going wrong but not four. I'm at a loss as to why it's not biting into the block work? :confused:
     
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