Anyway - right angle drill adapter.

[robinbanks]

For those awkward ones where the joists are too close together to get the drill into the compartment between the joists, can you find a drill bit long enough that you can pass it though the hole and thus have the drill in one compartment while drilling the joist of a different compartment?

Example, you have 3 joists, spaced so you have say 200 and 400 mm compartments, you use your drill with 100mm stubby spade bit to drill the middle joist with the drill in the 400mm pocket, then swap the stubby bit out for a 300mm long bit and drill the joist on the other side of the 200mm pocket with the drill still in the 400mm pocket and the drill bit passed through the middle joist?

You may also be able to drill a larger hole at a slight angle (having the drill under the adjacent joist) with a long bit (so the angle is as shallow as possible) to clear enough material to get a straight run through for your pipe etc

Less than a tenner, and yes I know it's a POS

Treated gently it'll probably be fine. If an augur but doesn't work try a spade and press lightly
Maybe buy two, as they're only a tenner, then you don't have to trek back to TS if it breaks on hole 3, and you have a new unopened one to return next time you're there if it goes the distance ..

 

[morqthana]

I will use a plain spade bit. As I said, the only reason I was using an augur bit was that earlier I'd been making holes where the spacing was OK for drill+ augur but not drill +spade.

 

[blup]

This one is presumably stolen

Not necessarily, could be ex site use. I have bought tools second hand on eBay that have been well maintained and fold on by businesses But general condition, 2006 plate and private seller say avoid, unless you know what goes wrong with them and can repair yourself

 

[robinbanks]

Gotta say, EBay's new policy of loading their protection fee and other guff on after the seller has chosen to list their item for 49.99 meaning the price ends up as 53.76 or whatever, just makes it look like everything is a scam..

"petrol welder generator £14.23..


this product is a picture of a generator "

 

[morqthana]

Gotta say, EBay's new policy of loading their protection fee and other guff on after the seller has chosen to list their item for 49.99 meaning the price ends up as 53.76 or whatever, just makes it look like everything is a scam..

"petrol welder generator £14.23..


this product is a picture of a generator "

There have always been fees for selling. It's not rocket science to work out a start price if you want the presented price to be 49.99

 

[robinbanks]

Actually, the fees you're talking about no longer exist

The fees I'm talking about are a recent change: https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/Buying/What-s-with-the-weird-start-prices/td-p/7781286

And for a lot of people, working out what price to start an item at so that the price other people see when eBay have finished manipulating it by 75p plus 4% would indeed be rocket science. They'd also have to list it for less than they wanted for it, if they were targeting a particular amount.

Vinted take the opposite approach; the trainers are 40 quid as listed but then you have to pay 42.63 including the protection fee, or whatever, when you hit buy- all in slightly more sensible in my opinion

 

[morqthana]

Actually, the fees you're talking about no longer exist

So those have been replaced by a different fee(s).

Yes, I know that private sellers didn't (usually) pay insertion fees, and this new fee structure might be more expensive, but frankly eBay have brought it on themselves by taking the side of buyers in disputes, and opening up a chasm of scamming. And so they pass the costs onto sellers, because they have a policy of driving all private sellers away - they just don't want them.

And for a lot of people, working out what price to start an item at so that the price other people see when eBay have finished manipulating it by 75p plus 4% would indeed be rocket science.

No, it would indeed be a spreadsheet.

They'd also have to list it for less than they wanted for it, if they were targeting a particular amount.

Or they get less than it sold for if they pay a final value fee.

Vinted take the opposite approach; the trainers are 40 quid as listed but then you have to pay 42.63 including the protection fee, or whatever, when you hit buy- all in slightly more sensible in my opinion

So you see an item for £40 and actually end up paying £42.63, and that's more sensible than seeing an item for £42.63 and actually end up paying £42.63.

OK.

 

[opps]

For what it is worth the Metabo BS 18 L BL Q (613156850) is only 177mm long. (161mm chuck to back of the body).

Like many of the new Metabo drills, it has the removable chuck but the angle attachment is the same as my 12v Metabo. I have never put that attachment under any duress

My 4000 RPM 18v Metabo has a right angle chuck similar to the one in @GhostIntMachine 's. The only difference is that it it is designed to accept their quick release chucks. Annoyingly, it doesn't accept the chuck supplied with the drill, it will however accept the smaller chuck for my 12v drill. I did email Metabo, but there was no reply... Great tools, crap email feed back.

 

[robinbanks]

No, it would indeed be a spreadsheet

Hah, I think you may be overestimating general computer competence there; for most, Excel is rocket science too

Or they get less than it sold for if they pay a final value fee.

Which they could also factor in to their start price if they ask CGPT a few more pointed Excel questions

You're distracting from the original point though; given that genuine humans tend to list things for round amounts - tile saw for £500 etc, businesses tend to list things for penny-less amounts, tile saw for £499.99 etc..
To adopt a policy that makes the amounts seem random and made up, like any of the hundreds of dodgy chindian aliexpress clones offering super powerful lithium ion TCT saw bladed brush cutters, buy 1 get 7 free, £16.32.. is just bizarre

So you see an item for £40 and actually end up paying £42.63, and that's more sensible than seeing an item for £42.63 and actually end up paying £42.63

We're well used to having small bits added on at checkout, taxes, delivery etc so that's not really a problem. It's clear before you buy how much you will pay even if you were first invited to treat by a round amount, Ryanair eat your heart out

I'm talking about the psychology of seeing a list of things allegedly listed by humans, but all the prices look decidedly "made up by a randomiser bot on a scam site" and how I think it's a very odd decision for eBay to have made

You're clearly happy with it, so crack on

 

[morqthana]

Hah, I think you may be overestimating general computer competence there; for most, Excel is rocket science too

Which they could also factor in to their start price if they ask CGPT a few more pointed Excel questions

I used to have a spreadsheet which factored in listing fees, FVF, postage (actual cost to me), to work out a reasonable starting price.

Sometimes the £x.99 price was because of eBay's thresholds on listing fees.

Ryanair eat your heart out

I'm talking about the psychology of seeing a list of things allegedly listed by humans, but all the prices look decidedly "made up by a randomiser bot on a scam site" and how I think it's a very odd decision for eBay to have made

You're clearly happy with it, so crack on

People will soon get over the "psychology thing".

Interestingly, random amounts like £42.63 are what I bid if ever I'm sniping, trying to get in at over the current highest bid but under the auto-increment amount you pay if you exceed the current highest by a lot.