Are these needed for copper to JG plastic connection?
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No. They're for use when joining 10mm soft copper to a compression fitting.
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When connecting copper pipe with speed-fit fittings, you don't need ANY inserts.
Aren't these inserts for plastic pipe? The copper in the description, is because the inserts are made of copper?
I've never seen an insert for copper pipe.
No inserts on the copper pipe. Copper is self-supporting. Always the correct inserts in plastic pipe though, whether it's going into push fit or compression fittings.
10mm (soft) copper is not self supporting. 15mm lengths are normally half-hard so do support olives during compression. 15mm soft coiled copper would also in theory need inserts but is rarely used.
They're not required for micro bore P&H because fittings are mostly soldered. They're mostly used for oil pipe where soldered joints aren't permitted. Kerosene is very searching so joints need to be tighter than where 10mm copper is made into rad valves etc.
Therefore the inserts allow compression as good a seal as a flare fitting.
Oftec inspectors love copper inserts. As said, for use on copper oil lines with compression fittings.
Perhaps my comment about self supporting was a bit of a generalisation as the question is in the plumbing and heating section. I was only referring to copper tube, whether standard sizes or microbore, as used in standard, domestic plumbing and heating applications.
Fair enough WS66, but oil lines are used for standard domestic plumbing & heating.
These inserts make a far better seal for all soft copper into compression applications. Wouldn't do without them now.
These inserts make a far better seal for all soft copper into compression applications. Wouldn't do without them now.
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The ones in the OP are for sale along side these http://www.wickes.co.uk/Products/He...bing/Copper-Fitting/Copper-Push-Fit/c/1000507
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