Are you not entertained?

the very people that will tell you they are not easily fooled.

not 1 Boris supporter in here has even admitted he was bad or wrong. It would be easier to accept if they at least admitted he was and were prepared to give him another chance.

I accept he is a salesman and can win votes, but that's all he can do. Bluster.

we deserve better.
The electorate deserves what it gets.
 
the very people that will tell you they are not easily fooled.

not 1 Boris supporter in here has even admitted he was bad or wrong. It would be easier to accept if they at least admitted he was and were prepared to give him another chance.

I accept he is a salesman and can win votes, but that's all he can do. Bluster.

we deserve better.
they have time to indulge their delusion. Mob mentality. No chance of getting 40 mps to cross the chamber to vote on no confidence so we're stuck with this tory psycho-drama. Embrace the Insanity.
 
So if it's a Boris V Rishi, and it's looking like that, Rishi will win the MPs vote, and BJ won't withdraw.
Fact is the various pundits and news sources are imagining all sorts of situations. Boris supporters are making noises about him and some others are saying if he gets it they will resign. Last I heard about Boris was flying back from the Caribbean and so far hasn't put himself forward - yet if he does and some are wondering if they can stop him.

I accept he is a salesman and can win votes, but that's all he can do. Bluster.
The salesman that will say what ever to sell fits well but there are more accurate reported factors about him. He delegates and is very dependent on his advisors and offers little himself. He's a sort of rubber stamp in other words except the stamp is always used.
Much of Johnson's leadership was under a war footing, Brexit, Covid and the Ukraine war leading to the cost of living crisis, he handled it well.
Brexit got them their majority plus promises that now they may find rather hard to meet. Boris had a lot to do with selling it. My main beef with that is lack of grown up talk and the use of nationalism and xenophobia instead.

Covid is an example of something that can crop up that leaves little choice in terms of what had to be done. The enquiry will probably make some loud noises about factors where there was some choice.

Ukraine as far as Boris is concerned is an excellent situation for getting good press. He can jet about looking important. Anyone in power can do the same. The crisis this has bought on has several facets. One of these is down to how business runs the world - globalisation. It's highlighted a serious problem with it. The other effect of the crisis, "cost of living" is entirely predictable - all parties say the same thing. Subsidies power. No choice again. The variable on that is in the detail about how that is done. Truss had a brilliant idea didn't she but unfortunately country debt levels are not that simple.

Sunak. He had all that lovely money that used to go to the EU yet had to increase taxation levels even with help in that area due to rising prices. In the current situation he too would need to support people and think very carefully about areas like the triple lock. Sunak was also facing rising interest rate charges. A country can't have it's cake and eat it. It has to strike a balance some how. He probably was or getting a lot nearer to it.

So he goes for PM. Boris had clearly had it so why not. He made zero difference to that. Boris was in an unrecoverable position. LOL The fact that Sunak was prepared indicates he can think ahead.

:ROFLMAO: Truss's approach was so stupid I wonder if it was a plot to try and get Boris back. No leader can just bring out numbers and ovoid providing the associated figures and get away with statements like I will totally ignore the treasury etc with the intent of borrowing.

Acually the Tory mantra is getting rather tired. We have had decades of it on and off and can anybody say that they have really improved the state of the country? In fact in this current session of them definitely not. Too many services are in crisis. There are other factors that don't look good as well.
 
the very people that will tell you they are not easily fooled.

not 1 Boris supporter in here has even admitted he was bad or wrong. It would be easier to accept if they at least admitted he was and were prepared to give him another chance.

I accept he is a salesman and can win votes, but that's all he can do. Bluster.

we deserve better.
The bufoon doesn't deserve a 2nd chance he didn't do great with the 1st, though I don't really believe anyone was expecting anything Stellar from him.

He could hardly string a sentence together without dithering through it.

Alas though he was the best of what was available at the time, which says a lot for the state of UK politics. (Not too dissimilar to the us, was trump and biden really the best they have?)

Roll on to the next election and we can move on and put this sorry mess behind us.

I still am at a loss how or why truss was even voted into being PM, the Tories must be on some pretty potent smack at the minute
 
Ukraine Government ran a "Better Call Boris" tweet which upset Sir K and has now been deleted. Oops
 
Ukraine Government ran a "Better Call Boris" tweet which upset Sir K and has now been deleted. Oops
"Surprised" is the word you were looking for, not "upset".

Sir Keir Starmer surprised by Ukraine’s ‘better call Boris Johnson’ tweet​

I'm surprised that any government would show support for any other country's prospective leader, it's called interfering in another country's politics.
The fake stories are coming thick and fast today. :rolleyes:
 
I remember how offended Brexers were when they were told UK would be at the back of the queue.

It still is.

What was it the Buffoon said, about resentful people whose ancestors were once colonised?
 
Oh, yes

Johnson the racist, smeared US President.


Perhaps Motorbiking has a soft spot for lying, dishonest, incompetent, racist Johnson.
 
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