Attaching stair gate to plasterboard wall and stairs questions

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Hi

Couple of questions

We are looking to put in 2 stair gates, 1 pressure (similar to the Img 1.) the other has hinges and latches (similar to Img 2.).
One side would be against a banister, the other the plaster wall

1)
Would you attach these directly onto plasterboard (with brick behind) or would you mount them on planks of wood to spread the load, especially of the pressure fixed gate?

2)
At the top of the stairs, the banister turns 90o then goes up a further 2 steps before meeting the landing. Due to this there isn't a newel to fix against, only spindles (so similar problem to Img 3.) how would you attach a stair gate here?

Thanks


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If you are thinking of fitting Child/dog gates on the stairs then they should be fixed to a wooden batten that has been fixed to the wall. You just cant stick battens on the wall Willy Nilly. By the look of your photos I would say that the walls are "lath and plaster". I might be wrong but if it is then the joiner would be able to fix your battens on the wall by screwing through the plaster into the wooden laths and also put some glue or silicon onto the battens before they are screwed to the wall. Hope this helps.. At the top of the stairs you might be able to screw into the spindles. Get the opinion of a joiner and pick his brains. Ps. Give him a chance to give you a price..

 

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Hi
Those photos are stock from the internet, as I was at work.
My walls are plaster on brick (50's house). I don't think think it is plasterboard as when I knock on the walls there isn't a hollow sound or changing in the knock.

Cheers for the reply, I will use wooden batters screwed into the wall with both my Willy and my Nilly

 

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I've finally got round to taking a photo at the top of the stairs.
Would you attach the stair gate to the top most spindle or the newel post.

At the moment the 2yr old doesn't rock or swing off the stair gate across her door.
We generally don't use it to pen her in, only to make sure she isn't running around whilst we are in another room for a short while.

My thoughts are.
Top Spindle opening onto the the landing gives more space to move around, however not as strong as a newel post.
Attaching to the newel post, stronger, however the gate will have to open across that small landing/turn of the stairs.

What are your thoughts?