battene battens battens
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Battens at least 50mm high, nails at least 50mm long.
Battens not further apart than 35 - 40cm
Battens not further apart than 35 - 40cm
Tini - we always use treated battens in this situation. If it's a very big area and you are intending to fix the battens consider hiring a Hilti cartridge nailer, with appropriate fasteners. How will you fix the boards down - secret nailing I hope? Oiled oak - you've made a good choice!!!
Thanks alot for your quick reply .. was thinking that means my floor will rise by 7cm !
Is there no other way!!??
Good tip about the cartridge nailer too, thanks as well, and yes, I was going to hire a portanailer, or buy one from sfx and flog it when i finished!.
By the way, as for treated battens.. what do I ask for... "treated battens?" Thanks, AW
Is there no other way!!??
Good tip about the cartridge nailer too, thanks as well, and yes, I was going to hire a portanailer, or buy one from sfx and flog it when i finished!.
By the way, as for treated battens.. what do I ask for... "treated battens?" Thanks, AW
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Symptons, question for you re 2.54cm high battens. When you nail your 50 - 55mm long nails in an angle when secretly nailing, doesn't the nail hit the concrete????
So what length do you use when secretly nailing 19mm thick?
WYL - I sense you're trying to catch me out .... 
Anyway, 19mm thick, say 6mm approx tongue, cleat entry point say 11-12mm up from base of board, nominal 1" thick batten which in reality is 22mm thick. Apply a bit of Pythagoras and you come out with a 45mm cleat which would not break through the batten, or we could sized-up by eye. In reality a thicker batten, and longer cleats is always the way to go but as Tini is short of depth 2x1 is a satisfactory option.
Interesting observation however, 50mm cleats tend to deflect/bend horizontally when hitting the concrete so would work, but they'd be a bu**er to get out.
Anyway, 19mm thick, say 6mm approx tongue, cleat entry point say 11-12mm up from base of board, nominal 1" thick batten which in reality is 22mm thick. Apply a bit of Pythagoras and you come out with a 45mm cleat which would not break through the batten, or we could sized-up by eye. In reality a thicker batten, and longer cleats is always the way to go but as Tini is short of depth 2x1 is a satisfactory option.
Interesting observation however, 50mm cleats tend to deflect/bend horizontally when hitting the concrete so would work, but they'd be a bu**er to get out.
test of your knowledge maybe symptoms. As big al says ' we are all still learning' At least i think thats what he says or is that someone else on here? But woody does seem to be a bit of a guru on the old wood installs.
Not at all Symptoms, just wanted to hear more about it - hear to learn too, as everyone else.WYL - I sense you're trying to catch me out ....
Besides that, we hardly install on battens on concrete, still think it's a waste of money, effort and height. But that's just me
and me, plus a weak point if the batterns leave the floor.Not at all Symptoms, just wanted to hear more about it - hear to learn too, as everyone else.WYL - I sense you're trying to catch me out ....
Besides that, we hardly install on battens on concrete, still think it's a waste of money, effort and height. But that's just me
Matty - of course correctly fixed battens don't "leave the floor". I suppose as there are no regulations regarding this type of work, only 'good practice' and that based on experience can guide us. When ever we've been called to offer this solution, done properly it'll stand the test of time - we've been at this game now for 34 years. Anyway, the OP specified battens and all/most posts are in this connection.
Hello again.. woodulike.. can you tell me how YOU install wood flooring over concrete..? i thought battens were a must.. (there are some slightly uneven surfaces in the flat)
Thanks
and Symptoms, to affix battens, if that is what i use, can you explain how to use that a Hilti cartridge nailer and show a link to appropriate nails?
Thanks
again everyone!
Thanks
and Symptoms, to affix battens, if that is what i use, can you explain how to use that a Hilti cartridge nailer and show a link to appropriate nails?
Thanks
again everyone!
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