Best wishes to the hostages, prisoners and otherwise from all sides released today.

[fillyboy]

Some concentration camp eh?

 

[Knave of Hearts]

Some things are more important than shopping.
It's why we elect our representatives.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

Some concentration camp eh?

Yep, escape was impossible, freedom of association was strictly controlled, freedom to fish for food was restricted, any merchandise was strictly controlled by the occupiers, etc.
Anyone exploring beyond those limits were killed extrajudicially.

 

[fillyboy]

Yep, escape was impossible, freedom of association was strictly controlled, freedom to fish for food was restricted, any merchandise was strictly controlled by the occupiers, etc.
Anyone exploring beyond those limits were killed extrajudicially.

In your dreams maybe.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

In your dreams maybe.

The 1993 Oslo Accords granted Gazan fishers the right to fish up to 20 nautical miles offshore (one nautical mile is roughly 1.15 miles.) The 20 nauti- cal mile limit is only 10 percent of the exclusive international legal limit of 200 miles granted to sovereign countries under the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea.

Palestinians' ability to enjoy the right of association is severely limited due to ongoing conflict, military occupation, and restrictive measures, particularly in the occupied Palestinian territory (OPT).

Imports are heavily restricted, with "dual use" items permitted only as part of donor projects. This includes construction material and computer equipment. Exports are also heavily restricted, with the main impediment to economic development in Gaza being Israel's ban on virtually all exports from the Strip.

your go.........

 

[Koolpc]

Yep, escape was impossible, freedom of association was strictly controlled, freedom to fish for food was restricted, any merchandise was strictly controlled by the occupiers, etc.
Anyone exploring beyond those limits were killed extrajudicially.

But they still managed to spend millions building tunnels and buying rockets etc while their own people suffered under hamas rule of thumb...

 

[fillyboy]

your go.........

The Israelis and Egyptians were trying (unsuccessfully) to stem the flow of arms and rockets into Gaza. I expect the controls in the future may be tighter, obviously you'd prefer the Palestinians to be fully armed and equipped ready for another pop at Israel.

I really can't understand why 'you and your lot' are such ardent supporters of terrorism. Why can't you understand that a peaceful solution would be far better. (and by peaceful solution I don't mean the destruction of Israel which appears to be the only solution acceptable to you (and your type).

 

[fillyboy]

I never realised you were their accountant.

A tunnel network the size of the London Underground with facilities to manufacture tens of thousands of rockets is not cheap, hundreds of millions minimum, add to that the cost of luxury safe havens for the leaders.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

The Israelis and Egyptians were trying (unsuccessfully) to stem the flow of arms and rockets into Gaza. I expect the controls in the future may be tighter, obviously you'd prefer the Palestinians to be fully armed and equipped ready for another pop at Israel.

I really can't understand why 'you and your lot' are such ardent supporters of terrorism. Why can't you understand that a peaceful solution would be far better. (and by peaceful solution I don't mean the destruction of Israel which appears to be the only solution acceptable to you (and your type).

Oh, here we go again, accusations of anti Semitism won't be far behind.
Have you ever tried sending your suggestions to Netanyahu?

 

[Knave of Hearts]

A tunnel network the size of the London Underground with facilities to manufacture tens of thousands of rockets is not cheap, hundreds of millions minimum, add to that the cost of luxury safe havens for the leaders.

Have they issued shares yet?

I'm the one that's slightly inebriated. What's your excuse?

 

[fillyboy]

Have they issued shares yet?

I'm the one that's slightly inebriated. What's your excuse?

And you have the nerve to accuse others of not being capable of giving sensible answers. Looks like I win again.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

And you have the nerve to accuse others of not being capable of giving sensible answers. Looks like I win again.

What have you won? The race to the most ethereal, imaginative, fictitious assumption?

 

[JohnD]

"
By Mera Aladam
Published date: 17 October 2025 16:14 BST | Last update: 2 hours 29 mins ago

Human rights monitors and medical experts have condemned the conditions of 120 Palestinian bodies handed over by Israel to Gaza, noting that many of the remains show "clear evidence" of torture and the possibility of organ theft.

The Government Media Office in Gaza said that official examinations showed that most of the Palestinian bodies retrieved indicated systematic torture, field executions and crushings.

The return of the unidentified bodies came in three batches, with 45 bodies handed over on Tuesday, another 45 on Wednesday and 30 on Thursday.

Muneer Alboursh, director general of the Ministry of Health in Gaza, described the bodies in a post on X as being "bound like animals, blindfolded and bore horrific signs of torture and burns that reveal the extent of the crimes committed in secret".
"They did not die naturally; they were executed after being restrained. These people were not buried underground, they were kept in the occupation's refrigerators for long months," he added.

Graphic images circulating online show decomposing bodies bound with rope and blindfolded, with what forensic reports have identified as signs of physical torture.
Some clips showed Palestinians viewing screens showing images of the corpses, attempting to identify if the bodies belonged to loved ones.

Euro-Med Human Rights Monitor noted that remains released from Israel "bore clear marks of hanging, rope imprints around their necks, injuries from close-range gunfire, bound hands and feet with plastic restraints, and blindfolds".
It added that corpses showed signs of being crushed by tanks, while others indicated that individuals were subjected to fractures, burns and deep wounds

Outcry after Israel returns Palestinian bodies in 'horrific condition' to Gaza

Forensic examination of 120 Palestinian bodies show 'clear evidence' of torture and possible organ theft

www.middleeasteye.net

https://twitter.com/x/status/1979029150284251181

 

[Andydevon]

Now John stop talking about the tortured, raped, dehumanized, and murdered Jewish hostages that Palestinians have yet to return to Israel.

 

[morqthana]

by peaceful solution I don't mean the destruction of Israel which appears to be the only solution acceptable to you (and your type).

You won't find a shred of evidence to support that ridiculous claim.

But then you know that, and you don't care - you'll say anything you like, knowing it to be totally untrue, with the sole aim of derailing discussions, and for your own self-gratification.

What's the word for people who deliberately say things which they know are untrue?