Big Beautiful Bull

[blup]

The big beautiful bill is the real reason Trumpf has pushed for ceasefires in the middle east, he needs to get back to the business of making the rich richer. Ge will surely antagonise at least some of the 12 million who will be taken out of medicaire

 

[Lirefighter]

wealth inequality has grown massively over the last 45 years

The cost of living is the biggest problem that faces those at the lower earning end of society.
Someone they Don't know who earns 100x what they do is only a problem if they are consumed with envy.

 

[Brigadier]

The cost of living is the biggest problem that faces those at the lower earning end of society.
Someone they Don't know who earns 100x what they do is only a problem if they are consumed with envy.

And what causes the cost of living crisis?

Those "earning" 100x more are a large part of it.

It's not envy : it's desperation.

 

[Lirefighter]

And what causes the cost of living crisis?

Those "earning" 100x more are a large part of it.

It's not envy : it's desperation.

Incompetent governments largely cause the overinflated cost of most day to day living expenses.

 

[Notch7]

The cost of living is the biggest problem that faces those at the lower earning end of society

That is one aspect, shall we look at the money flow:

the wealthiest people massively increased their wealth during and after covid.

Where do you think that wealth comes from?

Here’s an example:

Energy prices increased massively because oil supply reduced and the market increased oil barrel prices, costs of production hardly changed, so energy producers like shell and BP massively increased their profits and share prices rocketed

Shell share price:

2020. 1,100
2025. 2600

Wealthy people hold assets such as shares so they got richer
Lower earners have seen gas and elec prices rocketed, taking up far more of their income

 

[Notch7]

Incompetent governments largely cause the overinflated cost of most day to day living expenses.

Let’s have a look at the major costs that use the wages of the lower paid:

Cost of rent
Electricity
Gas
Food price increase

Please could you explain why you think governments largely caused the over inflated costs

 

[Notch7]

Incompetent governments largely cause the overinflated cost of most day to day living expenses.

It’s mostly been Conservatives in power since 1980

45 years of neo liberalism which has seen this country flogged to private equity / sovereign wealth funds.


It’s Conservatives that have largely caused the overinflated costs of most day to day living expenses.


The irony is that Lirefighter supports the Reform Party….which is Thatcherite extremism.

 

[Lirefighter]

That is one aspect, shall we look at the money flow:

the wealthiest people massively increased their wealth during and after covid.

Where do you think that wealth comes from?

Here’s an example:

Energy prices increased massively because oil supply reduced and the market increased oil barrel prices, costs of production hardly changed, so energy producers like shell and BP massively increased their profits and share prices rocketed

Shell share price:

2020. 1,100
2025. 2600

Wealthy people hold assets such as shares so they got richer
Lower earners have seen gas and elec prices rocketed, taking up far more of their income

Oh dear!
You have got just about everything arse over tit there, Notchy.
It is so bad that I think you must have done it intentionally.

 

[Lirefighter]

Let’s have a look at the major costs that use the wages of the lower paid:

Cost of rent
Electricity
Gas
Food price increase

Please could you explain why you think governments largely caused the over inflated costs

Cost of rent:
Mass immigration.
Electricity:
Net zero.
Gas:
Net zero.
Food price:
All of the above + corporation tax, minimum wage, sugar tax, national insurance, green levies, etc, etc.

 

[ReganAndCarter]

The joys of old age- 51

With the benefit of hindsight and being three years older than him, I told my brother that after 50 things start wearing out and don't work so well. He laughed at what I said, saying he plays sport every other day, eats and drinks sensibly and is fit as a fiddle. Couple of months later he was under the knife for disc problems in his back. He has now also developed foot drop and often wears a foot brace splint.

You can't learn them!

 

[ReganAndCarter]

At least the poor have Notchy as their champion.

 

[Justin Passing]

latest job figures are negative, latest gdp growth figures are negative

USA ones - no they aren't negative. Today's figures look good.
You make up shizzle to support your general whining.
The next figures won't be good though.

Please could you explain why you think governments largely caused the over inflated costs

You're conflating everything. Share prices rising is not the gov's doing. Shell price is mostly correlated with the price of oil. Nothing to do with UK gov.

At least the poor have Notchy as their champion.

Champion of what? The do-nothing whiners? Champion of talking Bohlox and making up cr@p.
Not a position to aspire to, is it. Champion whiner?

Wealthy people hold assets such as shares so they got richer

Well no sh1t Sherlock, They hold whatever works. They use their assets to earn. It's called capitalism. If you don't like it, off you go to China or Cuba or Russia. You won't be able to whine, there, though. They gather up whiners who feel hard done by and look after their needs directly with free state support. It's called prison.

 

[Notch7]

Cost of rent:
Mass immigration.
Electricity:
Net zero.
Gas:
Net zero.
Food price:
All of the above + corporation tax, minimum wage, sugar tax, national insurance, green levies, etc, etc.

U.K. Gas and electricity prices have shot up due to increases in wholesale gas prices.

Lirefighter is claiming the increase in wholesale gas prices is due to net zero.


Lirefighter is claiming the cost of rent has increase solely because of “mass immigration”. Poor Lirefighter doesn’t know about Thatcher flogging council houses, deregulation of mortgages, massive use of Quantitative Easing oh and more recently Trusses budget causing mortgages to go up.


The Reform Party told Lirefighter that all our problems are due to immigration and net zero…..and like a good little serf Lirefighter believes because he can’t or won’t think for himself.

Don’t be a Dodo like Lirefighter

 

[Lirefighter]

I cannot wait to see the drivel you spit out when reform are in No10.

 

[noseall]

I cannot wait to see the drivel you spit out when reform are in No10.

You'll have to. A few years yet. Will reform still be formed?