Bilingual circuit labelling

[russellsmiler]

I have heard today of a stubborn ole welsh bugger electrician who labels circuits in wales in only the welsh language (possibly rightly so), is this legal??
Are we reaching a stage were possibly all instalations should be labelled in more than one language...or possibly colour coded??

Any thoughts on this ?

 

[Jackrae]

Don't think you're allowed under the namby scheme to use the words "colour coded"

 

[Chri5]

There must be something in the regs regarding signage, marking and certs. Maybe non English is acceptable when you know other 3rd parties who may maintain or adapt also speak the lingo.

However Wales is less than 40% Welsh speaking / reading, so for that Id say its a ECIR fail (well it would be if I went anywhere near it)

Guy sounds like a right tw4t.

 

[JohnW2]

There must be something in the regs regarding signage, marking and certs.

For a start, Sections 514.12 - 514.15 of the regs specific the exact wording required for various labels/warnings - and that 'exact wording' is in English. I presume there would be no objection to the wording being repeated in other language(s), but I can't see that such labels would be BS7671-compliant if the specified wording in English did not also appear.

Kind Regards, John

 

[Spark123]

The IEE regs are non-statutory however if he is a member of a self cert scheme then he may be bound by them.

 

[JohnW2]

The IEE regs are non-statutory however if he is a member of a self cert scheme then he may be bound by them.

[I presume you mean 'IET']
Sure, and that's why I only said that I didn't believe that non-English warning labels would be BS7671-compliant. As you say, whether BS7671 -compliance 'matters' to the electrician is a different matter. However, as being discussed in another thread (and even if the electrician is not constrained by scheme membership), unless the electrician can produce a convincing argument to the contrary, non-compliance with BS7671 is likley to be regarded as indicating non-compliance with part P of the Building Regs (which is 'statutory').

Kind Regards, John

 

[Wontdothatagain]

The IEE regs are non-statutory however if he is a member of a self cert scheme then he may be bound by them.

BS7671 is a quasi legal document, it is not an act of law but can be used in a court of law to back up a legal argument

 

[EFLImpudence]

Wales is less than 40% Welsh speaking

That is true -

19% according to the 2011 census.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Hasn't our own resident stubborn ole welsh b*****r electrician got a theory that as BS 7671 is not available in Welsh it has no force there?