Black spots on Oak Door

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Varnished the door last year but only a thin coat perhaps, weve had the house rendered recently and with alot of rain we now have some dark stains on our door sill, im sure ive read somewhere this may be related to a reaction to concrete or maybe something else, can i sand it bleach it or stain varnish over it?



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You'll never get rid of that mate. Varnish underneath the door.
 
yep definatley mould

might just be my eyes but the slope seems to stop an inch before the doors cover it bad design it should start under the doors so any water running down the face off the doors wont pool under the door but run off

is there a good 3mm gap at the bottom off the doors ???
 
looks to me like the varnish has failed and water has got in. Varnish is quite brittle and IMO not suitable for outside work. It can even crack from normal weather-caused expansion and contraction, especially if it faces the sun. Wooden boats have to be rubbed down and redone every year or two, and are prone to this black fungal staining.

A better method:

sand off the varnish and damaged wood

use bleach to remove the staining if necessary.

dry it thoroughly

Treat it with several coats of Cuprinol Clear wood preserver (to combat future fungal or insect attack)

Dye it with Colron if you want to change the colour or hide the staining

Treat it with several coats of boiled linseed oil. Thin the first few with white spirit to help it soak in. After each coat, wipe off any excess that has not soaked in after half an hour or so. Wet the rags with water and tie up in a plastic bag or they may self ignite (this is not a joke). This gives a water-repellent treatment that does not go hard enough to crack, and as it has soaked into the wood, will not let water in if the surface is chipped or scuffed e.g. by people clumping through it in heavy boots. Some people prefer Tung oil, which I have not tried.

You might also consider protecting a wooden doorstep with a brass or copper threshold which can be bent to fit. This was common on Victorian and Edwardian houses of good quality to get over this very problem.

p.s. as Joes says, the edges of doors, especially the bottom, are most in need of good protection, and most often don't get it. You might consider lift-off hinges to make the job easier.
 
Oak is notorious for staining like this in even a hint of moisture. IMHO its not the best exterior wood to use for joinery. Structurally its brilliant though.

Varnish will never protect it. If you can sand or even scrape/plane the staining out then do that and use a clear wood preserver that will sink deep into the grain. There are some sealers available that do a good job too, such as bourne seal.

Simon
 
the staining is caused by metals in the water reacting with the tannins in the oak You should be able to bleach the stains out with oxalic acid.
You need to get the doors off and sand off all the varnish then treat with the oxalic acid then seal with a decent sealer.
Don't use Bourne seal it is an interior finish. i would use something like osmo natural oil wood stain. Dont forget to get plenty into the end-grain at the bottom of the door
 
Missed some replies here, thanks to all of you for the proffessional advice, most appreciated. Going to tackle this bastud door and post back some pics after. (for anyone interested!).

cheers and have a fine weekend.
 

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