Blunt Knives Campaign

[diy_fun_uk]

Instead of this pointless (no pun intended) nonsense, why not give victims the satisfaction of knowing that the perpetrator will be locked up for many many years. I know sentencing is not down to plod, but the left leaning judiciary should hand out real deterrents.

It seems to be going the other way, letting them out early and pathetic sentences in the first place.

Government seem to constantly kick the proverbial can down the road, year in year out, decade in decade out. Then, as with prisons and prison spaces, we end up in a scenario where there's such a gulf between where we should be and where we are. I think three new prisons have been announced which is better than nothing I suppose.

 

[diy_fun_uk]

But aren't they just saying the sharp pointy bit which goes in first is doing all the damage.. because its going in first. Isn't that like saying we should removed bumpers from cars, because it's usually the bumper that hits first?

I'm only going by the news piece I saw this morning. If it's the actual point that's causing most of the internal damage (and I suppose easing entry of the blade into the body) then it likely makes sense to not have the actual point? I'd say you've got your car analogy the wrong way round. Pre bumpers, it was easier for the vehicle to damage people, so the addition of the bumper mitigates this. In the knife scenario, removing the point is like adding the car bumper.

The knife manufacturer Viners was also featured in the news piece, they have a range of products with no point on the blade.

Assure Knives & Sets | Viners®

Viners new, innovative Assure knives feature squared tips, designed to maximise safe use in and around the home whilst assuring the performance will not be compromised.

www.viners.co.uk

 

[ReganAndCarter]

, but I'd hazard a guess many (most?) folk don't use the actual point of the blade when prepping food?

I do. How else am I going to pierce the plastic film over the top of my ready meal before it goes into the oven?

They haven't thought this through, have they?

 

[ReganAndCarter]

Typical 21st century politicians answer to a tiny problem. Rather than make life more difficult for the perpetrators, make life more difficult for everyone else.

 

[diy_fun_uk]

Typical 21st century politicians answer to a tiny problem. Rather than make life more difficult for the perpetrators, make life more difficult for everyone else.

On this I completely agree with you.

UK, soft on crime and the causes of crime.

 

[ReganAndCarter]

On this I completely agree with you.

UK, soft on crime and the causes of crime.

Will machetes and zombie knives now have rounded plastic blades?

 

[Deleted member 323070]

The knife manufacturer Viners was also featured in the news piece, they have a range of products with no point on the blade.

Where' the point in that?

 

[Trazor]

Any "blunt" knife will easily penetrate a human chest with enough force, behind it.

The size of the disc, on the end would have to be something like25mm/1" to stop it entering.

Are they going to ban sharpening/grinding tools, you couldn't make it up, errrm hang a minute, they just did.

 

[blup]

I saw someone interviewed this morning on telly, she'd been stabbed multiple times in that case last year when the guy went into the kids dance class.

Apparently, the doctors told her the majority of the damage to her body was caused by the actual sharp pointed end of the blade. Suppose that accounts for some of the rationale behind such campaigns.

I don't do much cooking so can't comment with any authority (and might be wrong), but I'd hazard a guess many (most?) folk don't use the actual point of the blade when prepping food?

It’s useful to stabilise a carrot or make an entry into chicken pieces.

 

[blup]

I do. How else am I going to pierce the plastic film over the top of my ready meal before it goes into the oven?

They haven't thought this through, have they?

I missed the most obvious use

 

[denso13]

you couldn't make it up, errrm hang a minute, they just did.

It is a back bench proposal with the support of two MP's, it's going nowhere. Panic over...

 

[evdamadiynot]

Legislation often doesnt fix a problem because the perpetrators just disregard laws anyhow and we dont have the resources to enforce more rules.

But it often causes collateral damage to innocent pastimes
Eg
Acid and other chemicals have become strictly controlled due to terror attacks and Katie Piper.
Mamod model steam engines - you cant get the fuel blocks
You now cant get oxalic acid crystals for timber restoration or pest control.
But M15 wont be telling you that the threat has diminished as a result.

The knife angel was done with confiscated blades plus those recovered via amnesty
The latter source ties in with my opening statement.

 

[gas112]

A lot of stabbings are heat of the moment so grabbing a knife out of the kitchen drawer /knife rack . So yep it will help stop a lot .
Premeditated or carrying on purpose then yeah they could sharpen them but more chance they would just buy a pointed one anyways .
A lot of knife crime involves stanley knifes because you can damage someone without killing them

 

[gas112]

The government’s “homicide index“ started recording the type of blade involved in murders and other killings in April 2022. It has published only one year’s worth of data so far.

It reveals 244 homicides in England and Wales involved sharp instruments in the year ending March 2023.

Of these, 14 involved machetes, seven involved zombie knives and three involved swords. Kitchen knives were the most common type of sharp instrument used to kill. They were used in 101 homicides.

 

[motorbiking]

People also use scissors.

There are 7 unique ways to attack a person with a knife, making the pointy bit blunt only stops 3 of them.

I suspect kitchen instruments are used due to their availability.