Bus driver sacked OMG

[noseall]

And he did have a duty of care to everybody else on the bus, which he abandoned when he set off in pursuit of the robber

Nuff said.

 

[Highway Man]

Whats he blathering on about?

He is complaining that you are trying to take credit for my amazing copyrighted phrases.

 

[motorbiking]

Irrelevant.

Nope.


What if I chase them as they run off?
This situation is different as you are no longer acting in self-defence and so the same degree of force may not be reasonable. However, you are still allowed to use reasonable force to recover your property and make a citizen's arrest. You should consider your own safety and, for example, whether the police have been called. A rugby tackle or a single blow would probably be reasonable. Acting out of malice and revenge with the intent of inflicting punishment through injury or death would not.

Chasing a fleeing suspect with a weapon and subsequently using it is highly likely to be considered malice, revenge, or retaliation rather than self-defence in legal terms, particularly if the initial threat has passed.
(Source - CPS)

That rules you and HWM out.

We got there finally! a source. Shame it’s the wrong law.. dummy

 

[Highway Man]

Irrelevant.

Nope.


What if I chase them as they run off?
This situation is different as you are no longer acting in self-defence and so the same degree of force may not be reasonable. However, you are still allowed to use reasonable force to recover your property and make a citizen's arrest. You should consider your own safety and, for example, whether the police have been called. A rugby tackle or a single blow would probably be reasonable. Acting out of malice and revenge with the intent of inflicting punishment through injury or death would not.

Chasing a fleeing suspect with a weapon and subsequently using it is highly likely to be considered malice, revenge, or retaliation rather than self-defence in legal terms, particularly if the initial threat has passed.
(Source - CPS)

That rules you and HWM out.

titter

 

[noseall]

We got there finally! a source. Shame it’s the wrong law.. dummy

The use of reasonable force is not a law dummy but is referred to and relevant in many laws dummy...

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https://caringforcare.co.uk/reasonable-force/
Read and weep dummy.

 

[Odds]

Yes, as I have just posted with an excerpt from the Crown Prosecution Service guidance paper on it. Chicken biker asked for source, and now he can smother it on his humble pie.

18 pages - this one has potential...

 

[pete01]

He is complaining that you are trying to take credit for my amazing copyrighted phrases.

Oh

 

[motorbiking]

titter

The use of reasonable force is not a law dummy but is referred to and relevant in many laws dummy...

​

https://caringforcare.co.uk/reasonable-force/
Read and weep dummy.

That’s where I thought you’d got it from.

Relevant. Nope.

 

[pete01]

18 pages - this one has potential...

Good ennit? Unlike your 50 page threads with just yourself commenting

 

[Odds]

That’s where I thought you’d got it from.

Relevant. Nope.

then why don't you just clarify the point of contention in plain English.

 

[Highway Man]

then why don't you just clarify the point of contention in plain English.

way too much fun watching you loonies try to work it out. Running around in circles like headless chickens. This is great.

 

[noseall]

That’s where I thought you’d got it from.

Where I got what from? The CPS report or the chart describing the applications of reasonable force?

Relevant. Nope.

The rules and laws surrounding and referring to reasonable force are not relevant to a person chasing a subject with a weapon? Explain?

 

[Highway Man]

Where I got what from? The CPS report or the chart describing the applications of reasonable force?

The rules and laws surrounding and referring to reasonable force are not relevant to a person chasing a subject with a weapon? Explain?

He is running away with someones property for one

 

[motorbiking]

[

Where I got what from? The CPS report or the chart describing the applications of reasonable force?


The rules and laws surrounding and referring to reasonable force are not relevant to a person chasing a subject with a weapon? Explain?

If you promise to listen carefully. I will explain the difference between the well established common law defence of reasonable force for self defence and the statutory right of someone using reasonable force to apprehend a criminal.

 

[noseall]

He is running away with someones property for one

And then if some twonk decides to jump in the drivers seat and have a joy ride, you then have several passengers and a whole lot of expensive bus shaped property to deal with. That and the fact that the insurers have now voided your £120k claim because the bus was unatended.