Carpet fitting/Carpetright

[CNF]

Hello, quick question re laying a carpet over old lino - explained to Carpetright that lino there, they asked if floor was concrete which it is and have arranged a fitting where both grippers and gluing down is involved. Is this correct? Am slightly concerned that both are not necessary and that they have not really taken account of the lino...any help appreciated. Thank you!

 

[crazydaze]

Sticking, or Sticking and pinning the gripper directly to the concrete is normal and recommended, but you can't do that if the vinyl is in place, check your contract, it may stipulate that you are responsible for uplifting the lino (is it lino or vinyl?)

 

[CNF]

Thank you for reply - it is old lino, probably 1960/70s and therefore possibly containing asbestos. From what I have researched I understand this is fine as long as you don't try to take it up/break it apart etc. I explained all this to the sales person and asked if they could lay the carpet over the lino. He said "don't worry about the lino, that's not a problem, we just need to know if it's a concrete floor" and then went ahead with the order - leaving me with the understanding all along that the carpet would be fitted over the lino. He was fully aware that my main question was about the lino in the first place, so if it isn't possible to fit the carpet over it that would be a rather glaring oversight on his part re information given... We discussed me uplifting the old carpet which is fine, and what I expected,but not the lino. The contract does indeed stipulate old floor coverings to be removed, but obviously I understood this to be carpet not the lino. My question now is: can the carpet be laid over the lino and if so what is the method? I don't exactly now trust Carpetright to give the right info...

 

[crazydaze]

It's ok to fit over the old linoleum, always better of course to lift it, but that is your choice. You will not need any adhesive as the gripper will have to be pinned through the linoleum into the concrete floor underneath, this should be ok provided the nails can get a fixing. If this method is used, DO NOT PAY FOR STICKING THE GRIPPER!

An alternative, if a fixing is not possible to achieve by pinning through the linoleum, would be to fit the carpet on a specialist underlay called System10, with this method, the underlay is laid down with a slight gap around the edges and then the carpet is fully glued to the underlay (the glue is trowled on and is NOT SPRAY ADHESIVE!!!!!!!) and tucked into the gap around the edge, thus leaving the linoleum in-touched. Your salesman will not have allowed for this fitting method

 

[CNF]

Thanks, this makes it all clearer..the alternative method you describe seems to be how the old carpet was laid as there is a gap around the edge where the concrete is visible and it definitely hasn't been pinned. However,the sales guy didn't mention special underlay etc with this order, I just bought ordinary underlay, so he can't be thinking of using this method now, as you say. I will go back to customer services and check how they intend the fitting to be done/query the adhesive charge. Learning curve!

 

[crazydaze]

If the gap around the edge is 5-10mm then it could have been fitted with System 10, if the gap is approx 5cm, you should be able to stick and pin th gripper in this gap.