Christianity isn't a religion of Peace - Home Office

[ban-all-sheds]

Shouldn't you aquaint yourself with the basic biology before you make stupid statements.
Pregnancy is not a disease requiring surgery.

If you take the trouble to actually read my post which you quoted you'll find that it does not contain such an assertion, but instead asks you to define "human being" and "human life" without reference to any religious beliefs whatsoever.

 

[EFLImpudence]

why are you defending against the obvous fact that this country has gone down hill.

I am not exactly defending a fact.

I am saying you are probably mistaken to think the country was ever up hill.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Plus the little matter of bnb having to prove a causal relationship between those "ills" and this trend:

 

[breadnbutter]

Could that mean that religious people, who maintain they need telling, don't have any?

lets just undermine those who have a believe.

et us say "knowing right from wrong" is just obvious and common sense .

generally, but it also depends on how your brought up, and taught. the most common sense ones are not to murder,lie,steal,but they are signalled by our conscience , but to be more righteous or to practice righteousness you need guidance, because we are inherently evil, we need help. so to say we so called religious are to stupid because we need guidance , is ignorant at best.

 

[EFLImpudence]

lets just undermine those who have a believe.

Fairies.

generally, but it also depends on how your brought up, and taught. the most common sense ones are not to murder,lie,steal,but they are signalled by our conscience , but to be more righteous or to practice righteousness you need guidance, because we are inherently evil,

Do not think everyone is the same as you.

we need help. so to say we so called religious are to stupid because we need guidance , is ignorant at best.

Apparently not.

 

[breadnbutter]

Plus the little matter of bnb having to prove a causal relationship between those "ills" and this trend:

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a lot of people will say there Christian, but have no clue what it means, and a lot say there Christian simply because they think its a cultural thing, I would say there is about 10 % at best of the the uk that is true Christian today.
so islam is on the rise, proves my point, about rejecting christanity,and another will replace it.

 

[SirGalahad]

I thought the discussion was about Christianity you are citing religious extremists to make a political point.

Again straw man argument. But tell me what point do you think I am trying to make?

 

[breadnbutter]

Apparently not.

so you cut and paste what I said, to make it mean different,

 

[SirGalahad]

in the past 20 years we are starting to see more and more a callapse in society, community, and rise in crime. immorality, ( pedophilia, child abuse, divorce, abuse of women, gender confusion,drug taking, hatred, road rage, knife crime, fraud,muggings,street fights,attacks,break ins, murders,chaotic confused out of touch parliament. corruption, just to name a few.

Most of that has way more to do with austerity, inequality and rising poverty.

 

[EFLImpudence]

so you cut and paste what I said, to make it mean different,

I did not cut any part of your post.

 

[breadnbutter]

I am saying you are probably mistaken to think the country was ever up hill.

yes it was consistent up and down, but what is happening to day is a freefall

 

[JohnD]

what is happening to day is a freefall

in your perception.

How do you think road deaths have changed in the last 30 years? Up? Down? about the same?

house burglary?

Stolen cars?

 

[breadnbutter]

I did not cut any part of your post.

deliberately or not you cut out the part were I said we are ( inherently evil), that's why we need help.

 

[EFLImpudence]

deliberately or not you cut out the part were I said we are ( inherently evil), that's why we need help.

You speak for yourself.

I am not (inherently evil) , so did not require indoctrination to change me.

Perhaps I was wrong and religion is necessary to convert evil people like you. Even that does not make what you believe true.

 

[durhamplumber]

ok
so how do you know and learn right from wrong.

Society,parents,,etc,,,learn nothing positive from poxy religion except poison and nonsense fairy tails