Clay pipes disintegrated

[Ian H]

You could get a guy to CCTV your foul drain and probe a suitable place for you to tap into it.

 

[tel765]

OP,
if you posted pics of your whole yard showing any man hole covers, and the location of your down pipe(s), and waste gulley, and the soil pipe then it would become more clear what options you might have for tying into your drainage.

 

[Hugh Jaleak]

Pipework looks earlier than 70's to me, but may be wrong. Possible it was badly laid in the first place, and subsequent ground movement over the years has caused it to disintegrate, but the broken edges of the pipe in the pic are fresh.

Either reroute into the garden and install a suitable soakaway, or trace your house drains, and couple into those. (Just dont tell anyone.)

 

[Simon Fit]

Tel, there are no man hole covers. I will post a pic later. There is only one down pipe at the front and one at the back. The pic I’ve shown of the start of the trough was where the gulley was. I can put the pipes back down and show where they were. There is however a raised stair to the garden and a garage to the left of that I won’t be able to go through.

 

[Simon Fit]

Hugh, the way the pipe falls toward the non concrete gravel area of the drive may suggest it perhaps went into a make shift soak away. I am going to try and dig down by the side of the house where the downstairs shower ok is as there may be some pipe work below there perhaps. Just got to drill out the old concrete that was once the old stairs to the garden.....
My weekends are now ear marked to sort out this problem !!!

 

[Hugh Jaleak]

Have to wonder if the pipes were laid deliberately unjointed to allow the water to disperse. Can you put up a sketch or pics of the building and any other drainage you are aware of, might be able to give you some pointers on where best to be digging.

 

[Simon Fit]

Been a busy week in the office. I will take pics tomorrow of the drive

 

[Simon Fit]

 

[tel765]

Thanks for the pics, there are so many who promise this or that and never come back - it can be a nuisance.

The broken CI down pipe position - can you pics the roofline above and to the right?
In the corner above the old steps there seems to be another down pipe that eventually reduces & goes into the return wall/shower room?
Can you pic the area where the car is standing?
Where is the WC soil & vent pipe?

As you can guess, given that tight space, i'm constantly looking for an alternative to a soakaway.

FWIW: there are some other issues in the pics - if you want i'll later list them for you?

 

[Simon Fit]

 

[Simon Fit]

Roofline shown. There is one other down pipe the other end on the neighbours end.
The next pic is the garages. Mine to the right.
The return pipe wrapped in foam is from the combo boiler in the loft.
The soil pipe is in the back garden between the neighbours house as shown in the pics. Guttering also in the back garden.

what other issues are there ? More than happy to listen. Thanks

 

[Hugh Jaleak]

Apologies for not replying sooner, but some of us have full time jobs and families, so can only drop in here to help when we have a few minutes spare.

Crikey, you dont have a lot of scope there by the look of things. Foul drainage appears to run along the rear, and getting to that isn't going to be straightforward in the slightest.

Realistically, I think you have 3 possible options, first is try and get a soakaway under the front driveway somewhere. I'd dig a trial hole if possible and do a percolation test, see what, (if any), chance you have of a soakaway working. Second possible, is to try and direct the water towards the road somehow, and let the Highway Gullies take it. (Not strictly allowed, but needs must, and you didn't realise it would flow that way...)

Third option would be to reroute the downpipe from the front, along the side of the house, to discharge either on the flat roof over the shower room or preferably into the rear gutter. Downside is, it'll look unsightly, and also depends on the drainage for the rear rainwater, if that's also going into a soakaway, then you'll overload it very quickly and end up with a flooded rear garden instead, so may need to look at rerouting that into the sewer.....

 

[Simon Fit]

No worries, been working from home mon, tue, hence the daylight pics.
There is a downstairs toilet in the shower room and a sink so I’m thinking there may be a pipe underneath the old stairs where the kitchen and extension are. The shower water disappears into a down pipe too.
Will be unable to direct toward the road as the path is on a slope, sloping toward the house. I have dug a hole to look at the base which is clay. Perhaps under that there may be proper earth.
I did think about a pipe along the side to catch the down pipe that runs at the back but as you say, it’ll be unsightly . Think a dig down under the old stairs might locate a pipe...

 

[Hugh Jaleak]

The Building clearly has been altered/extended in the past, and the waste from the kitchen would have gone somewhere, I would suspect an external gulley, when the place was originally built. I think your plan is probably a wise one, let us know how you get on please.

 

[Simon Fit]

Will do. Thank you for all your help. Just looking at the run where the soil pipe could be. Think it would be easier the toilet waste pipe / shower pipe being just outside rather than the run under the kitchen floor... *fingers crossed*