Consumer stuff on the suppliers board

[Softus]

Sorry. I meant to add this:

 

[ban-all-sheds]

How do you know the picture is of BAS's installation?

because he didn't explicitly say that it wasn't

And if it is mine, how do you know how much of it I was responsible for?

The answer is not all of what you can see in that photo.

I retract the statement as regards the plumbing.

Fair enough. I didn't do that plumbing anyway (does a gas pipe count as plumbing?), nor did I say I thought it was good. In fact I'm not impressed with it, and it remains to be seen how impressed the DNO guy will be with it when he comes to pull the fuse to change the meter...

I do not retract the statment regarding the worrying and elementary defects on view in the photo of the electrical installation. These are a matter of fact and serve as an ideal illustration of typical defects found in DIY installations.

Bends in the cables? They aren't as sharp as they look in the photos - the ones I did are probably 2x the cable diameter not 3x, but as 2x would be OK in conduit it's probably not going to wreck the cable.

Missing cables? No - there's one main bonding cable which runs unbroken to the gas and water, and there's one cable to the CU. My supply main earth looks like this:

But it's not my property so I can't do much about it. Actually I say that's what my main earth looks like - in fact only one of them is a real TN-S earth cable, the other comes from the sheath of the short length of cable that loops out of my cutout to my neighbour's house, so only one is connected back to the substation, and it's shared between two houses...

Supports on the cables? You got me there. It's an unsupported vertical run of 420mm and there should be a clip every 400mm.

MET not labelled? It's not mine, and the board it's fixed to isn't mine. It would be a criminal offence for me to tamper with it and fix a label to it, wouldn't it?

 

[securespark]

it remains to be seen how impressed the DNO guy will be with it when he comes to pull the fuse to change the meter...

He may well refuse, matey!

 

[Softus]

It would be a criminal offence for me to tamper with it and fix a label to it, wouldn't it?

Why would you care?

 

[FingRinal]

How do you know the picture is of BAS's installation?

because he didn't explicitly say that it wasn't

And if it is mine, how do you know how much of it I was responsible for?

The answer is not all of what you can see in that photo.

I retract the statement as regards the plumbing.

Fair enough. I didn't do that plumbing anyway (does a gas pipe count as plumbing?), nor did I say I thought it was good. In fact I'm not impressed with it, and it remains to be seen how impressed the DNO guy will be with it when he comes to pull the fuse to change the meter...

I do not retract the statment regarding the worrying and elementary defects on view in the photo of the electrical installation. These are a matter of fact and serve as an ideal illustration of typical defects found in DIY installations.

Bends in the cables? They aren't as sharp as they look in the photos - the ones I did are probably 2x the cable diameter not 3x, but as 2x would be OK in conduit it's probably not going to wreck the cable.

Missing cables? No - there's one main bonding cable which runs unbroken to the gas and water, and there's one cable to the CU. My supply main earth looks like this:

But it's not my property so I can't do much about it. Actually I say that's what my main earth looks like - in fact only one of them is a real TN-S earth cable, the other comes from the sheath of the short length of cable that loops out of my cutout to my neighbour's house, so only one is connected back to the substation, and it's shared between two houses...

Supports on the cables? You got me there. It's an unsupported vertical run of 420mm and there should be a clip every 400mm.

MET not labelled? It's not mine, and the board it's fixed to isn't mine. It would be a criminal offence for me to tamper with it and fix a label to it, wouldn't it?

Are you incapable of resolving these problems even IF, and it's a big IF, you weren't responsible for them?

Of course it's not your property

 

[JohnD]

Clapham Common Deep Level

 

[FingRinal]

Mosley Shoals

 

[RF Lighting]

Are you incapable of resolving these problems even IF, and it's a big IF, you weren't responsible for them?

Of course it's not your property

Are you really as stupid as you come across on this forum?

That is a DNO earth, and they are the people responsible for it. No one else is allowed to work on that main earth.

There would also be implications of leaving the property next door with no earth whilst work was carried ont on the earth.

This is one good reason why you must not mess with DNO equipment.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Are you incapable of resolving these problems

No I'm not, but I don't think that a few bends that are tighter than ideal and an unsupported vertical run that's 5% too long are crying out to be resolved.

even IF, and it's a big IF, you weren't responsible for them?

I do hope that's not a suggestion that I've not been truthful. You shouldn't judge others by your own standards.

 

[FingRinal]

Of course you don't think so about the Regs. And please refrain from being personal. There's no need for it.

Does the 17th also say - 'All Regulations to be cherry picked as one sees fit and not applicable to BAS'?

Just sort them out BAS. That's if your able to.

 

[Softus]

There would also be implications of leaving the property next door with no earth whilst work was carried ont on the earth.

This is one good reason why you must not mess with DNO equipment.

Maybe I'm shtewpid, but does this mean that the integrity of nextdoor's network earth depends on a connection to ban-all-sheds's MET?

 

[FingRinal]

It does if BAS says it does. He knows everything you see Can't actually DO anything, but he knows everything.

 

[Softus]

You're both wrong, so please don't drag me into your petty dispute.

 

[JohnD]

Lookig at this picture, I didn't think so. It looks to me as if the incoming cable loops into his ?iron? service head, then back out again to go to the next dwelling.

However in some cases there is only one service head and just a pair of tails (and maybe an earth wire) goes through the wall or under the floor to next door.

If next door has PME it is not a prob, but I doubt it from what we see.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Of course you don't think so about the Regs.

Think what about the regs?

And please refrain from being personal. There's no need for it.

That from someone who has not hesitated to use personal and irrelevant criticisms to try and disguise the fact that he has misunderstood a simple definition?

If there was a survey, do you think that nobody would regard a statement along the lines of "IF what you say is true, and it's a big IF.." as indicating that you aren't convinced that what was said was the truth?

Does the 17th also say - 'All Regulations to be cherry picked as one sees fit and not applicable to BAS'?

I doubt it. But have I suggested that they do?

Just sort them out BAS. That's if your able to.

Of course I'm able to. You tell me to refrain from being personal - how many times have you been patronising?

And just how much longer do you intend to carry on with these petty, and frankly increasingly pathetic attempts to turn everything you can into a criticism of me?