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Coronavirus testing.

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Mottie, 16 Sep 2020.

  1. Dangee

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    The haters gotta hate.
    Whatever they do, it’s never gonna be good enough for you.
    Can’t you concentrate on logistical how difficult it is to react to something that is constantly emerging in different areas.
    Look how far we have come in 9MONTHS!!
    You just can’t take those blinkers off & see what a difficult situation this is, of course there will be mistakes.
    Could you do better or will you just rely on hindsight.
     
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  3. JohnD

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    You didn't do a very good job of cheering us up with the good news.

    Try again.

    Be positive.
     
  4. Dangee

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    Dr Chris Smith was on the radio yesterday and said, even with a million tests a day, it would take over two months to cover the UK population.
    And someone can test negative, yet catch the virus shortly afterwards.
    They are likely than not to then be asymptomatic, and able to pass it on and around.
    And so on and so on .

    So, how many tests per day is "enough"?
     
  6. Dangee

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    God knows. Ask Sweden.
     
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    If we had a million a day, we would be much better able to spot the districts where infection was increasing, and no doubt specialists in epidemiology would use their techniques to identify transmission routes (pubs, schools, public transport, abattoirs etc) so they could be given preventative measures or closed down. They already do this for food poisoning and notifiable diseases. I have an idea it is a public health responsibility of local authorities, though budgets and headcount were reduced during Austerity. I understand this is because the nation doesn't want good public services.

    https://www.ippr.org/blog/public-health-cuts#anounce-of-prevention-is-worth-a-pound-of-cure
     
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    Well, it depends.

    Yes, but that means 110 NEW cases - 210 total, R 1.1 as you say.

    Well, not really.

    If there actually were 200 cases (100 known, 100 unknown) and now actually 310 (210 known, 100 still unknown), that is actually 200 to 310; an R of 0.55 - half what you think.
     
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    There are different R values, so it is helpful / essential to define which R value you're talking about.

    Linky
     
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    No, that's not how it works. The time period is long enough so that the initial 100 are either recovered or dead.
    No. Just no.
     
  13. EFLImpudence

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    The recovered or dead don't (re)infect anyone.

    Ok, please explain.

    Also - how an R number can be determined when it is not known how many have the virus.
     
  14. SirGalahad

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    No the bus caused the death - you think Drs willy nilly put down covid.

    A person has multiple underlying conditions - like cancer but its pneumonia that killed them. Some pepple believe in fantasies where they think the numbers are inflated and its all a conspiracy.

    Have you seen a DC?

    https://www.themdu.com/guidance-and...ce/certifying-deaths-during-covid-19-outbreak

    COVID-19 is now an acceptable 'direct' or 'underlying' cause of death for the purposes of the MCCD and although COVID-19 is a notifiable disease, this does not mean that deaths from COVID must be reported to the coroner.

    https://assets.publishing.service.g...l-certificates-of-cause-of-death-covid-19.pdf
     
  15. SirGalahad

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    Its arbitrary.

    PHE redefined the deaths in early August (around 12th) and then was announced it would be abolished around the 18th of August.

    How convenient.
     
  16. Mottie

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    But the death figures clearly state those that have died within 28 days of a positive Covid test result. I’m not saying it was the cause of death, obviously it would be the bus that caused the death, but as it stands, he would be a statistic of the daily Covid death total if he died, for any reason, within 28 days of a positive Covid test result.
     
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    Sorry, refined then abolished what?
     
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