descaler

[mrcrow]

i am going to use some sentinel sludge removal X 400 and then follow up with the inhibitor X100
i see the boiler descaler X 200 is recommended to get rid of the noises i get in my boiler...
can it be used along with the inhibitor...
cheers and blessings from manchester
mrcrow

 

[Beans-on-Toast]

I use these chemicals seperately, although I'm sure someone out there will make me wrong, one way or tother....

Use the x400 first and flush, x200 secondly and flush and then x100 with the final refill.

You may want to leave the x400 in for a fortnight and obviously all done when your system is switched on.

Sorry but just recently a few people asked me if they should be adding chemicals to their systems now whilst the central heating is switched off.

Great Move By The Way.......

 

[Fluffster]

Just like Beans on toast says is the method I also use.
Otherwise go for the big boys method and get it powerflushed does a better job however costs about £200 more.
Pete

 

[Agile]

You should not need BOTH X400 and X200 just whichever one is required by the problem.

If you have sludge and limescale together then Camco FX2 is perhaps better for treating both together but the correct chemical depends on the problem.

X400 needs to be left in for AT LEAST 3 weeks and whilst the CH is regularly turned on so its best done during the cold weather. Ferroquest is much better than X400 and only needs 2-3 days for the same effect.

The system should be drained and refilled and drained again after using either before adding the X100.

Tony

 

[Beans-on-Toast]

You did ask about the Fernox X range didnt you OP...........?

IMO, use all three of the X range that you mentioned consecutively as a preventative measure, the rot (problem) may have started and you just don't know about it yet.....!!!!!!!

 

[mrcrow]

i was told the fernox product caused gumminess and that sentinel was better..what ho and they do it as a gel...cool

the other product mentioned by agile i will look in to...

perhaps i am getting confused with the x400 treatment scope..will it descale my boiler... as well ..in which case i wont seem to need the x 200

my system is pretty sludged up and i feel i may flush it through a few times with water prior to ingesting the x 400

and i promise on my pink sneakers to put the ch boiler on...

i plan to run the system at max temp for at least 4 hours a day...and get my hall stat up to 32...its at 27 just now

this is the article...

what we need is a cold snap to make it all worthwhile...

would appreciate a bit more info and i will be using the diynot shop probably so i will check what they stock

cheers
from sunny manchester

this is the article...dont think its a fernox make

 

[Agile]

Stay clear of any product which causes guinness.

X400 is designed to bring oxide sludge into suspension, it will not attack lime scale products, you need X200 for that

Tony

 

[mrcrow]

Stay clear of any product which causes guinness.

X400 is designed to bring oxide sludge into suspension, it will not attack lime scale products, you need X200 for that

Tony

i am sure guinness wont be produced..if it is i am on a winner..

what do you think of the

 

[Agile]

I have already said what I think of it but repeat for those who only read last posts:-

"""Ferroquest is much better than X400 and only needs 2-3 days for the same effect."""

But the question is not what the various products do, but what is the problem and what chemicals are required to deal with that problem!

Tony Glazier

 

[mrcrow]

I have already said what I think of it but repeat for those who only read last posts:-

"""Ferroquest is much better than X400 and only needs 2-3 days for the same effect."""

But the question is not what the various products do, but what is the problem and what chemicals are required to deal with that problem!

Tony Glazier

the problem i think is sludge..i have cold spots at the bottom of two rads..although they are long ones and the boiler makes some clanking noises just as it reaches its shut off point.
i did read your post and in the interim found out the ferroquest was designed for power flushing and is more agressive than the X400
greatful for your comments and advice
cheers
mrcrow

 

[Beans-on-Toast]

Ahem, excuse me..........

1.) Use X400 to get rid of Sludge in system.........
2.) Use X200 to get rid of Scale in the boiler.......
3.) Use X100 to keep the sludge at bay............

and lastly

4.) Install £25 lime fighter to keep scale at bay

and if your a COMPETENT DIY'er mrcrow, it'll all come to under £100..!!!!

 

[mrcrow]

Ahem, excuse me..........

1.) Use X400 to get rid of Sludge in system.........
2.) Use X200 to get rid of Scale in the boiler.......
3.) Use X100 to keep the sludge at bay............

and lastly

4.) Install £25 lime fighter to keep scale at bay

and if your a COMPETENT DIY'er mrcrow, it'll all come to under £100..!!!!

you are a cracker!!
the x stuff came to 43.02 post free from the diynot shop...and i will look into the limefighters...i am in sunny manchester...do you think its a real problem here...if so i will fit the appropriate one
this is FUN!!

around £40



drove past old trafford tonight...still in darkness

 

[Beans-on-Toast]

Same Limefighters from Mr Central Heating are £20

 

[ChrisR]

The limefighter is only ( and then only possibly...) any use on the mains into a COMBI boiler. Not on the CH pipe.
You won't get limescale as such in a conventional boiler - especially in Manchester (soft water?)
If your system is v bad then consider using the mains to flush it first (see FAQ) , or taking the rads into the garden with the hose, which is very effective.
If when you've done all your stuff the boiler 's still noisy you could try Boiler Silencer which raises the boiling point of the water a bit so it "kettles" less.

 

[Agile]

It would have been quicker for you to use the Ferroquest! Two-three days!

It sounds as if your system is quite badly sludged up and I would not expect that those non acidic products will necessarily clear it without power flushing.

Your rads are probably in too poor condition to risk using a citric acid based product so you will have to see what effect the X400 has but dont be disappointed if it is not totally effective.

Its quite possible that there is oxide sludge in the rads and lime compounds in the boiler which will need different chemicals to treat.

Tony Glazier