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DOGE: the giant Con

Are we having a stupid competition?, well done guys, you won.

Why not just explain what it means? I am sure there are many things I understand which you don't. And if you asked me I would be happy to try to explain them and would never call you stupid.
 
Local elections in UK, main election in Romania, Germany will be interesting. To see dictatorships in all their glory, we should be looking closer to home.
Trump, Musk, Farage

Have all been stirring up the far right in Europe

Why?

A = because they they hate the rules based stable democracies and are trying to disrupt them
 
Well that's up to them.

I'm confident we have many people here that vote Labour or Tories out of sheer habit and/or because it's the way their family has always voted.

I think the difference is that for a lot of Trump voters it is more like a personality cult than a tribal party situation.
 
It wasn't ad hominem,, it applies to many trolls.
Justin is angry at being proven wrong
No, I haven't been.
You raise a strawman and then post crap you claim is evidence
Like most forum trolls.
You have contributed nothing, you just trot out your zealotry regardless.

Justin Passing made these claims:

1) cutting corporation tax increases employment
2) raising tariffs will create more jobs in USA

Tiresome little liar,
Again.
I said "In Trumps estimation."
and you misquote/ quote out of context.
You're a disgrace to the forum, humanity, and that.
You have produced zero "evidence" of what will happen in future.

I'm trying to give some sort of balance and you're being a campaigning knob.
 
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What 5 things did you accomplish last week?

What Elon is doing is common in style to what happens in takeovers or when there's a replacement at the top. It takes so long to go through with a scalpel that it's more efficient in the end to use an axe. Tell the ones who want to go, to leave, because they were probably dead wood anyway, and then carve up the rest .
Usually there's a bit of reforming of departments to keep the better staff so the positions of the rest can technically be made redundant.
I've been on contract where that happened, in engineering, and seen it in financial institutions. Contractors can be relatively safe because 1) if they just vanish, whatever they were doing just stops and remaining staff are clueless about it, and 2) they can be suitable to patch the old to make it what the new guys want.

I was amused to see that some vital "nuclear" guys were "let go", by mistake. I've seen employees refuse to carry on with the employment, take the redundancy money THEN go back as a contractor at a multiple of the rate. Humble coders might get £500 a day (UK), now), but a systems manager or someone with specialist knowledge a multiple of that. Decades ago £1k a day wasn't uncommon. Now, in California, ?? I know 3 guys who don't need to work again ever, having been contractors in Silicon valley early on.
 
Anyone who didn't think prices were going to go up if/when tariffs were imposed, or services were slashed, was short on thinking.
It's too hard to say they deserve what they're going to get, though. Trump claims that things will come right later. I expect there will be some examples of that (this is what idiots such as N above, latch on to so they can post trolly crap) but I wouldn't bet on it. If other countries add tariffs against importaton of US goods, many US companies won't be able to export even as much as before.
Just as an example, say Apple. If iPhones get too expensive in Europe (Because of a tariff) the people will not renew, and ultimately will give up on the brand loyalty, when that becomes the cool thing to do. Samsung isn't Chinese, it's Korean.

His other m.o. is to use tariffs as a threat. He says he'll impose tariffs unless something unrelated is done. But we've already seen resistance. The more voices calling out the bleedin obvious - increased (short term at least) prices, the more likely he is to not go through with the threat.
EG he can hurt Canada, but there's no immediate payoff for the US, and if Canada refuses to sell him the oil grades he needs, where does he go?
Canada's exports to the US represent something around 24% of US use and it's growing around 1% a year. USA will be drilling more, eg deep in the Permian basin (Gulf of oil) but that will take time to grow. Murricans will feel it in their car fuel and power costs quickly.
About 97% of Canada's production goes to the US - something they might want to review...

Bloomberg TV is something I watch quite a lot. They're neutral, ish. They have people on from both sides. It's interesting because the presenters are VERY savvy on economics. Trumpists get a very hard time. Unless T's lot produce examples damned quickly, they'll get shredded.
 
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