Double glazing original 30s front door keeping original glas

[mark.carline]

Not sure if this is the best place to post for this - anyway....

I am going to be fitting an original 1930s front door that I have purchased that looks similar to the following:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Stained-Glass...oryZ4771QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Only problem I have is that I want to:

1) Replace some of the outside glass panels as they have broken, and
2) Encase the stained glass lead panel in a double glazing style enclosure.

I was thinking of doing the following:

1) removing the outside broken glass that runs 2-3 inches all the way round
2) getting a stained glass specialist to replace it with one that gives me a final panel size thats around 1 inch smaller than the hole in the door
3) giving the panel to a double glazing specialist who could put it inside of a circular double glazing panel thats will be made exactly to the diameter of the door.

Do you see what I mean ?

For security and insulation reasons I really dont want to just get the stained glass repaired.

Any thoughts ??

p.s. I am fairly handy and given the tools / materials I would be more than happy to have a go myself if I can get my hands on the right stuff !?!?

 

[Richard C]

Something you need to be aware of is that replacement windows & doors (unless in an external porch or conservatory) must comply with minimum standards. It’s a very nice door but I’m not sure how it will measure up to current requirements; I’d advise you talk to your local Building Control before doing anything as you may be creating problems for yourself in the future.

 

[mark.carline]

what !?!?

What kind of regulations do i need to worry about - you have got me worried now !?

 

[Richard C]

what !?!?

What kind of regulations do i need to worry about - you have got me worried now !?

Regulations that ensure replacement windows & doors conform to the latest building standards for thermal insulation & safety - safety glass must be used in doors & adjacent windows; talk to your local council Building Control dept. they will advise.

 

[mark.carline]

ok many thanks - is there any writtern information that I can follow and refer to ?

 

[Richard C]

Building regulations are covered in around 20 documents which can be downloaded from this site; the one that concerns you is Part N - Glazing

http://www.communities.gov.uk/

They can be pretty hard going if you’re not used to reading/understanding such documents that’s why I think it would probably be best if you spoke to someone in person at your local council office for advice.

 

[mark.carline]

Thanks for your help - I just phoned building control in chester and they said that as long as:

1) I use double glazing, and
2) Toughend glass ( to BSnnnn spec)

then all should be ok.

So, back to my question does anyone think that what I mentioned in the original post maybe possible !?!?

 

[JFC]

I would say get the glass repaired by an expert and get a 4/6/4 dg unit made up that you can fit into a rebate on the inside of the door . It will be tight but i don't think you will find anyone to put stained glass inside a dg unit . Regarding the regs , if you are just replacing the door and not the frame then it is classed as a repair of existing fixtures so is excluded .

Edit ; Although why you would want to add a double glazed unit for the reasons you have given is beyond me , still if you want to waste your money thats up to you .

 

[yoocan]

Hi,

I'm replacing the single pane of glass glass in the upper half of a victorian porch door. The door sits behind the external front door. Does any one know what thickness/type of glass should I replace it with ?

Many thanks in advance.

yoocan

 

[Richard C]

It’s not a good idea to hijack someone else’s post, even if it’s expired!

Not sure what you’re trying to achieve but replacing existing glass is regarded as a repair so your not bound by any of the regulations that have previously been discussed in this post so whatever thickness is already installed would be a good starting point! From a safety viewpoint, it wouldn’t be bad idea to use safety glass &, to increase thermal efficiency, you maybe able to use some form of DG unit but without seeing the door it’s difficult to know what’s possible.

 

[mark.carline]

I dont mind the hijack as its kind of related but please post pictures !?!?

 

[Richard C]

I dont mind the hijack as its kind of related but please post pictures !?!?

Rule 20) Do not hi-jack posts

(Hi jacking, is adding your question to a post you did not start, it causes confusion)

Moderators will try and split a post when ever possible.

 

[yoocan]

Sincerest apologies for hijacking, I honestly wasn't aware. I just thought since i'm in a similar position this would be an efficient use of a thread. I'll repost in a separate thread.

Thanks.