Downlights - lath plaster - Firehoods.

[MrTinker]

At what point of this topic has the function of this light(s) been suggested

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Unless there are small works of art or architectural features on the floor, what valid purpose would recessed 2" diameter downlights in the ceiling have?

 

[MrTinker]

They are very good indeed for highlighting particular items or features, or spot lighting small areas. That's what they are actually designed to do

From a previous post

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Yes, indeed from a previous post.

Not quite sure what your smilies are for, unless they are to indicate that you are hard of thinking.

Given this:

downlights into lath and plaster ceilings?

I repeat, unless there are small works of art or architectural features on the floor, what valid purpose would recessed 2" diameter downlights in the ceiling have?

 

[dingbat]

Mankind has, on a macro level, survived and prospered through advancements, not retrogressions.

Mankind has, on any level, survived and prospered through a bleedin' miracle of chance!
While 0.001% of the population may be capable of introducing advancement, the lumbering bulk of mankind serves as little more than ballast.

 

[mbga9pgf]

And even if you don't care about the environment, and are so barmy that you don't accept the problems of man-induced climate change, and can afford the bills, how can you not feel in every fibre of your body that it is just wrong to install something less efficient and less fit for purpose than what it replaces?

Mankind has, on a macro level, survived and prospered through advancements, not retrogressions.

Because its the only way you can illuminate older ceilings with lots of exposed beams without throwing shadows all over the place.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

And the only reason you can do that is because you are using lights with a beam pattern designed specifically to not light up rooms!

 

[mbga9pgf]

And the only reason you can do that is because you are using lights with a beam pattern designed specifically to not light up rooms!

I am using 60 degree wide angle rather than the usual 25-30 degree ones. They can be fine, as long as you know what you are looking for.

 

[PrinceofDarkness]

Such a sad waste of energy. You'd need at least eight 50W (400W) halogen nasties to give the equivalent lighting level of a single 100W GLS lamp.

Halogen downlights are so 1980's. They produce more heat than light - they have a very short life - they are stupidly expensive to buy (for the ordinary Tesco shopper)....

BAS is quite right to comment on the advancement of mankind (and science). These dreadful, wasteful fittings should be consigned to the dark ages whence they arrived.

And, as for the crazy idea of trying to fit them into a lath & plaster ceiling....... Pfffttt!


Lucia.

 

[IanAnderson]

Halogen downlights are so 1980's.

Quite agree, is it really true that there are people who don't have LED's these days.....

 

[xr4x4]

while i thank you all for your opinions, i think we are all bored with the disadvantages of downlights (of which i agree)

i think... i was getting confused with 'fire hood' as meaning protection against loft insulation.

customer wants GU10 downlights, with (i think) LED bulbs.

my question was, will we still need protection against the loft insulation with the link to the type of downlight i posted in my first post. as im guessing that all standard loft insulation is flamable.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

customer wants GU10 downlights,

And I want to drive a Ferrari with Claudia Schiffer naked in the passenger seat.

as im guessing that all standard loft insulation is flamable.

FFS.

 

[xr4x4]

customer wants GU10 downlights,

And I want to drive a Ferrari with Claudia Schiffer naked in the passenger seat.

as im guessing that all standard loft insulation is flamable.

FFS.

...and the usefulness of that post was?

 

[holmslaw]

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[xr4x4]

as im guessing that all standard loft insulation is flamable.

To work with electricity you need a logical mind.

And your logic tells you that every loft in this country has been deliberately covered with a layer of flammable material.

right.... so why cant you put loft insulation over the top of downlights?