Drills needed please help

[flameport]

I read somewhere stay away from 2nd hands as there's lost of fakes about . Is this bullsh1t?

99.999% of power tools sold on the likes of ebay and other marketplaces as 'second hand' are stolen.
There is no ready supply of used power tools in working condition. They are typically used by the owners until they are broken beyond repair.
Anyone who buys used power tools is basically funding thievery.

 

[morqthana]

What proof do you have of that?

 

[JohnW2]

Other than circular & jig saws, angle grinder, orbital sanders (of which I've also moved on from B&D) and Cheap pillar drill (underpowered Machine Mart) I've not have the range you list.

My 'list' was of 'workshop' (hence all 'corded') tools I have - and I mentioned it to indicate that, just as with the 'portable' power tools, my experiences, over very many years, of very cheap ones had generally been very happy ones. In fact, thinking back, I think that all of the workshop tools I currently have in service (i.e. my 'list') are my 'originals' (many acquired 25-40 years ago), since I don't recall having had to replace any of them (although some have enjoyed some 'bodged' repairs over the years ).

As for 'portable' power tools, as well as a lot of drills of various types, the list of what I have includes (mostly corded, some cordless) circular saws, jigsaws, reciprocating saw, chain saw, cordless mini-chain saw, various sanders (e.g. belt, orbital, 'detail' and a 'PowerFile'), a small angle grinder, some routers various 'multitools' and a biscuit jointer (and I may have forgotten some!).

Other than for the various drills, I think that the most useful (and most often used) of all those is the (B&D) "PowerFile", which I use for all sorts of purposes.

 

[JohnW2]

I read somewhere stay away from 2nd hands as there's lost of fakes about . Is this bullsh1t?

Some might be fakes, and some are probably stolen but I would certainly stay away from secondhand power tools ('for use' - see **), even if you know they are 'legitimate', since they undoubtedly do suffer from 'wear' over time.
[** I do sometimes buy extremely cheap power tools from eBay etc., including ones described as 'not working' or 'for parts/repair', as a source of spares for tools that I have.

However, you'll find plenty of good deals for 'new', 'never used' or refurbished power tools on the likes of eBay. Some may, again, be 'fake' or stolen', but probably not if you buy from a 'respectable' seller. Screwfix and similar do also sell refurbs, which can be a lot cheaper than 'new'.

 

[JohnW2]

What proof do you have of that?

Good question. In fact, I would generally regard any assertion which said that it related to "99.999%" of something as probably being unprovable, since, in the real world, it will virtually always be incorrect.

 

[JohnW2]

Two? Ha. This weekend my grandson has had to make models for engineering A level course work. We had 2.5, 4, 6, 9 mm drills, 12mm flatbit, countersink & PZ2 driver plus pillar drill on the go.

I did say "Two (or more)"

I very commonly have four on the go at once - one with a clearance hole drill bit, one with a pilot hole drill bit, one with a countersink bit and one with a screwdriver bit - and sometimes more if I am dealing with holes/screws of different sizes.

 

[thomp1983]

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