EARTH CABLE

Joined
25 Jul 2013
Messages
4
Reaction score
0
Location
Derbyshire
Country
United Kingdom
Hi

a 10 mm earth cable is 1 metre too short to terminate in the CU if i route through a joist ( which i have to do )
What connector could i use to make it reach

Thanks
 
Or

5018486509684_001c_v001_ap
 
The same NIC rules that they claim as "regs".

Try mentioning the OSG to the NIC and they say they do not recognise it or work from it as it is not the "regs".

Yet neither is their continuous PEB rule a "reg"... It may be good practice. It may have been adopted by the majority of electricians over the years as standard procedure, but it does not mean it is a written regulation in 7671.

As BS 7671 says, it is a MIMUMUM standard. Of that all sparks should be aware.

If any individual or organisation wants to better that, all well and good.

Just don't go around trying to say that the level you work to is regulation and anything less is a breach, because you just make yourself look stupid.
 
Yet neither is their continuous PEB rule a "reg"... It may be good practice. It may have been adopted by the majority of electricians over the years as standard procedure, but it does not mean it is a written regulation in 7671.
Quite, and although we tend to think of it as 'good/standard practice', even the logic of that is somewhat questionable. The primary purpose of MPB/PEB is to minimise potential differences between exposed-conductive parts and extraneous-conductive parts (or things joined to them). In most installations, there will be at least 5 - 7 (depending on whether or not there is a NET external to the CU) 'screwed connections' (connection of a conductor to a terminal/block/bar) in the path between the extraneous-c-ps (at the point of bonding) and any exposed-conductive part, so an additional joint (of whatever nature) in the MPB conductor does not make much difference to the big picture (provided it is 'accessible' for inspection).

Kind Regards, John
 
Yet neither is their continuous PEB rule a "reg"... It may be good practice. It may have been adopted by the majority of electricians over the years as standard procedure, but it does not mean it is a written regulation in 7671.
Quite, and although we tend to think of it as 'good/standard practice', even the logic of that is somewhat questionable. The primary purpose of MPB/PEB is to minimise potential differences between exposed-conductive parts and extraneous-conductive parts (or things joined to them). In most installations, there will be at least 5 - 7 (depending on whether or not there is a NET external to the CU) 'screwed connections' (connection of a conductor to a terminal/block/bar) in the path between the extraneous-c-ps (at the point of bonding) and any exposed-conductive part, so an additional joint (of whatever nature) in the MPB conductor does not make much difference to the big picture (provided it is 'accessible' for inspection).

Kind Regards, John

Point taken John, but like any system with joints, the fewer the better!
 
Point taken John, but like any system with joints, the fewer the better!
One can't argue with that, but people (and organisations!) are seemingly inconsistent. Those who believe that joints in an MPB conductor are 'not permitted' do not (at least, usually!) also believe that JBs in final circuits are not permitetd, even though they involve joints in exactly the same electrical path that is relevant in terms of an important function of the MPB.

I suspect that the argument for continuous MPB conductors arose/arises from the fact that, under certain fault conditions, they could theoretically carry very high currents. However, there are inevitably going to be at least 4 (usually 'screwed') connections in the path between an extraneous-c-p and an incoming TN earth - so, again, one extra joint is not really a big deal, particularly given that 'more care' might well be taken in joining an MPB conductor than when joining some other conductors.

Indeed, a simple answer to the OP's 'problem' might be to have an 'external MET'. This is a perfectly standard practice, and I don't think many would complain about it being 1 metre from the CU (assuming that was an 'accessible' place.

Kind Regards, John
 
Knew I had seen it somewhere - Earthing and Bonding, Snags and Solutions by the NIC.

Regards
 

If you need to find a tradesperson to get your job done, please try our local search below, or if you are doing it yourself you can find suppliers local to you.

Select the supplier or trade you require, enter your location to begin your search.


Are you a trade or supplier? You can create your listing free at DIYnot Local

 
Back
Top