ELECTRIC OVEN

[MATTBONNEY]

CAN SOME CLEVER SPARKY PLEASE GIVE ME SOME GOOD ADVICE PLEASE. I HAVE RECENTLTY BROUGHT A NEW COOKER WHICH RUNS AT 4.4 KW CAN I PUT THIS OVEN BACK INTO THE OLD OVEN HOUSING AND CONNECT STRAIGHT INTO THE KITCHEN RING MAIN THE SAME AS THE EXISTING COOKER OR DO I NEED TO RUN A NEW SUPPLY

 

[Steve]

TURN CAPS LOCK OFF its shouting.

You need a new supply. 4.4kw is not much. Is it a full blown cooker or just a hob or just a double oven? For 4.4kw, you need a 20 amp circuit.

I notice you say "oven housing" this would suggest its an oven only. If its a single oven, try this: Can the oven AND grill element be on at the same time? If not which is the highest rated one?

If its a double oven, follow my advice re. 20 amp circuit.

Work in a kitchen is legally notifiable to your local building control.

 

[MATTBONNEY]

Thanks for the reply. The cooker is a double oven and runs at 19 amp so do i still have to run a new supply and if so do i need to use 6mm cable

 

[Steve]

Thanks for the reply. The cooker is a double oven and runs at 19 amp so do i still have to run a new supply and if so do i need to use 6mm cable

OK, you will need to install a new circuit for it. You CAN use 6mm cable, but it is easier to use 2.5mm cable.

The circuit you need is a 20 amp radial in 2.5mm cable.

And of course you'll be either getting a spark in, OR notifying this to your local council building control, wont you!

 

[MATTBONNEY]

crafty please can you tell me why i cant use the kitchen ring main which is in 2.5. and yes i will not be doing the installation....thanks matt

 

[MATTBONNEY]

crafty please can you tell me why i cant use the kitchen ring main which is in 2.5. and yes i will not be doing the installation....thanks matt

or can this be done of a spur

 

[ricicle]

crafty please can you tell me why i cant use the kitchen ring main ........... i will not be doing the installation....

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[Steve]

crafty please can you tell me why i cant use the kitchen ring main which is in 2.5. and yes i will not be doing the installation....thanks matt

It is because the ring main is not designed for loads above 13 amps. Yes, it will take such a load, but this is over half the capacity of the ring, thus every item on the ring must have a fuse of no greater than 13 amps fitted.

No spurs, no ring mains.

What sort of hob do you have?

Out of interest, a single oven will simply plug into a 13 amp socket on the ring main.

 

[davy_owen_88]

Out of interest, a single oven will simply plug into a 13 amp socket on the ring main.

No it won't. It will plug into a ring final circuit just fine though

 

[ricicle]

Out of interest, a single oven will simply plug into a 13 amp socket on the ring main.

No it won't. It will plug into a ring final circuit just fine though

You pedantic so and so.......

 

[davy_owen_88]

You pedantic so and so.......

Maybe so, but I've left myself wide open for another pedantic so and so to point out my mistake

Come on crafty, get your own back

 

[Steve]

Point out your own darned mistakes.

 

[briwire]

Be careful with the 2.5mm. If it is installed on the surface or in conduit with air around it, it is rated at 23A. If it is buried in plaster or lay under insulation, its rating drops to 19A as any heat is harder to dissipaye. Personally I would use 4mm.

As for the ring main question. Any point in the ring main can only draw off 13A max, whether it be a spur of plug. Also as stated, if you tapped into the ring main and had the oven on and put the kettle on for a brew, the 30A fuse may blw.