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In a panic sometimes you do not evaluate solutions as you would with a clearer mind.
Evacuation of High Rise Flats
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Have you done much abseiling?
Do you have a climbing harness?
Have you ever used one?
Do you know of any additional 'bits of kit' to improve the use of harnesses?
BTW, wire rope is not used for abseiling.
Would you be in a position to instruct and guarantee the safety of your family (including small children) and any guests that may stay over?[/QUOTE.At grenfell I think all sides were well ablaze too
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I Would settle for that over dieing
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Why did the tenants remove the fire doors?
I know you will find this hard to believe, but I have no idea.
I expect they wanted some thing that looked better and no mechanical closing arm attached.
I see LFB advise against tampering with them...
http://www.london-fire.gov.uk/news/...465BBFE5_22804B80F85148BFBA15726034A0E9E5.asp
I see LFB advise against tampering with them...
http://www.london-fire.gov.uk/news/...465BBFE5_22804B80F85148BFBA15726034A0E9E5.asp
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To make fires to cook on....
Did you make that up, or find it on some reputable news source? Or a disreputable one? Show us.
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Probably someone who is allowed multiple usernames without question. Something that I have been accused of so many times as a diversion to the real discussion.
This forum is becoming more obscene by the day due to its allowance to biased and disgusting comments!
Yet it stifles and deletes genuine counter arguments.
thanks
"“There were problems with gas pipe insulation. There were stairways that were not accessible. There were breaches of internal walls, and, most astonishingly, there were hundreds, literally hundreds of fire doors missing. "
"I can inform the House that, as of midday today, the cladding from 75 high-rise buildings in 26 local authority areas has failed the combustibility test."
"all samples of cladding tested have failed"
I wonder why mwatson was so selective
Does the evidence state that the fire doors were removed by tenants? I can't see that bit.
"“There were problems with gas pipe insulation. There were stairways that were not accessible. There were breaches of internal walls, and, most astonishingly, there were hundreds, literally hundreds of fire doors missing. "
"I can inform the House that, as of midday today, the cladding from 75 high-rise buildings in 26 local authority areas has failed the combustibility test."
"all samples of cladding tested have failed"
I wonder why mwatson was so selective
Does the evidence state that the fire doors were removed by tenants? I can't see that bit.
- Ms Karen Buck (Westminster North) (Lab)
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Approximately one in three properties in Westminster towers are leaseholds and I am sure the same is true for other blocks. Does the Secretary of State have the power to require leaseholders to install fire doors and other internal fire safety measures? If not, what is he going to do about it and who is going to pay?
- Sajid Javid
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The hon. Lady raises a very important point. This is often the case, although not exclusively. Many leaseholders have removed fire doors, which is clearly not acceptable. I believe that all the legal powers are in place. Certainly, one of the lessons of this tragedy—this is certainly what we have seen in Camden—is to make sure we take a much greater interest in enforcement.
"Many leaseholders have removed fire doors"
so the assumption is that unlike the numerous defects caused by the landlords, in the case of fire doors, it's all the tenants' fault? That isn't what he actually said.
so the assumption is that unlike the numerous defects caused by the landlords, in the case of fire doors, it's all the tenants' fault? That isn't what he actually said.
Hansard is a precise transcription of what was said on the debate.
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